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In my honest opinion of Redis+Epoch. Its utterly stupid, using inidb would have been better...

Well making points like "We are not having MySQL because AWOL cant/wont do you" when you dont know yourself is silly.
 
And looking at the wider picture, how many things have been added because server owners have made good points to get it changed. There are a few...
 
There is a wealth of knowledge and experience in the community that Awol and co could utilize and that would allow them to work on cooler things, while someone else writes a persistence layer that is cross-platform (Works with MySQL, Redis and more)
 
Hell, you have me and Grim to thank for the last security patch ;) Which if it was exploited, you would have to wipe redis to fix it. With mysql, it would be a 10 minute job to fix hehe

At least with Access you can search the data :P

Hang on a minute, are you one of the devs? Can you speak on behalf of them?
Awol has always been open to suggestions from the community, many of the changes in this last update is clear evidence of this.
This post is more about explaining to the devs the pitfalls of using Redis from a SERVER OWNERS point of view.
 
Many of the changes in both A2 and A3 epoch have come about from feedback from server owners.
 
Stop trying to derail/flame/etc and please only post with valid points for or against.

I have made and setup 100s of websites. I have sites that get millions of hits a month. These sites run PHP and use MySQL for storage of information. Some also use redis for storing cached data that normally has a TTL of a few minutes at most.
 
I can tell you from experience, MySQL AND Redis can both deal with ALOT of data IO, even concurrently. 
And yes Redis is faster than mysql at pure data IO but were it falls down is trying to manipulate the data once its in there.
 
The fact that Redis has no scheme/structure so having no data validation, makes it fast. In my opinion this is terrible for a game server like ARMA, were structure is everything, one var datatype miss match and the whole server can go to shit.
 
Redis IS NOT FASTER than MySQL when you consider the day to day management of an ARMA server, were hackers can and do spawn crap in which is near enough impossible to find in Redis, without an application to load to the data set into memory and search it. (This is were MySQL is faster).
 
The reason the dev's are using Redis I suspect is because it is easy to change the "database* schema" on the fly and you don't need much additional knowledge to interact with Redis, MySQL is more involved.
 
* Redis IS NOT a database!
 
Please don't flame me, I really do have a lot of experience with this crap :P

I have made and setup 100s of websites. I have sites that get millions of hits a month. These sites run PHP and use MySQL for storage of information. Some also use redis for storing cached data that normally has a TTL of a few minutes at most.
 
I can tell you from experience, MySQL AND Redis can both deal with ALOT of data IO, even concurrently. 
And yes Redis is faster than mysql at pure data IO but were it falls down is trying to manipulate the data once its in there.
 
The fact that Redis has no scheme/structure so having no data validation, makes it fast. In my opinion this is terrible for a game server like ARMA, were structure is everything, one var datatype miss match and the whole server can go to shit.
 
Redis IS NOT FASTER than MySQL when you consider the day to day management of an ARMA server, were hackers can and do spawn crap in which is near enough impossible to find in Redis, without an application to load to the data set into memory and search it. (This is were MySQL is faster).
 
The reason the dev's are using Redis I suspect is because it is easy to change the "database* schema" on the fly and you don't need much additional knowledge to interact with Redis, MySQL is more involved.
 
* Redis IS NOT a database!
 
Please don't flame me, I really do have a lot of experience with this crap :P

I have made and setup 100s of websites. I have sites that get millions of hits a month. These sites run PHP and use MySQL for storage of information. Some also use redis for storing cached data that normally has a TTL of a few minutes at most.
 
I can tell you from experience, MySQL AND Redis can both deal with ALOT of data IO, even concurrently. 
And yes Redis is faster than mysql at pure data IO but were it falls down is trying to manipulate the data once its in there.
 
The fact that Redis has no scheme/structure so having no data validation, makes it fast. In my opinion this is terrible for a game server like ARMA, were structure is everything, one var datatype miss match and the whole server can go to shit.
 
Redis IS NOT FASTER than MySQL when you consider the day to day management of an ARMA server, were hackers can and do spawn crap in which is near enough impossible to find in Redis, without an application to load to the data set into memory and search it. (This is were MySQL is faster).
 
The reason the dev's are using Redis I suspect is because it is easy to change the "database* schema" on the fly and you don't need much additional knowledge to interact with Redis, MySQL is more involved.
 
* Redis IS NOT a database!
 
Please don't flame me, I really do have a lot of experience with this crap :P

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I will not be announcing updates on this forums anymore.
a3_epoch_custom.zip
@m3editor.zip
convert.htm

Maybe in 2 weeks :P

Maybe in 2 weeks :P

This is the same problem AIA and Panthera has been having.
 
I have partly fixed it on some of my servers by ensuring AIA/Bornholm IS NOT the first mod in the command line -mod param

Launcher is working correctly, servers will appear within 10/20 minutes.

Should be all fixed now

"seven new weapons" all for £11...
 
Nice BIS!

funny one hehe
 
Yup we are all up to date. Thanks :)
 
Try jumping into our teamspeak, we can help you out.

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@m3editor.zip
convert.htm

Here is my suggest for the "indicator". Im not 100% with the style yet tbh, it can be hard to see but i think a UI thing is better than a 3d icon in the game.
And hello again everyone :D

Here is my suggest for the "indicator". Im not 100% with the style yet tbh, it can be hard to see but i think a UI thing is better than a 3d icon in the game.
And hello again everyone :D

More info goto http://maca134.co.uk/portfolio/m3editor-arma-3-map-editor/
 
I will not be announcing updates on this forums anymore.
a3_epoch_custom.zip
@m3editor.zip
convert.htm

More info goto http://maca134.co.uk/portfolio/m3editor-arma-3-map-editor/
 
I will not be announcing updates on this forums anymore.
a3_epoch_custom.zip
@m3editor.zip
convert.htm

More info goto http://maca134.co.uk/portfolio/m3editor-arma-3-map-editor/
 
I will not be announcing updates on this forums anymore.
a3_epoch_custom.zip
@m3editor.zip
convert.htm

What seems to be the problem here...
 
Can we not all just calm the fuck down and get along? 

More info goto http://maca134.co.uk/portfolio/m3editor-arma-3-map-editor/
 
I will not be announcing updates on this forums anymore.
a3_epoch_custom.zip
@m3editor.zip
convert.htm

More info goto http://maca134.co.uk/portfolio/m3editor-arma-3-map-editor/
 
I will not be announcing updates on this forums anymore.
a3_epoch_custom.zip
@m3editor.zip
convert.htm

This sounds alot like "If you don't play by my rules I'm taking my ball and going home!" lol
At least he's drawing attention to his cause, even if we do not agree.
Whatever other server admins do on their server is really none of anyone's business.
It has zero effect on me, because anyone that plays on those servers wouldn't last five minutes on mine. lol
I personal would never have any pay to win or any type of subscriber perks on my server.
You suffer like everyone else lol
 
btw.. what's with all this new neckbeardy elitest bs I see showing up here in epoch?
I don't remember it ever being like that. I know some noobs can be frustrating but this whole "if you don't know this you shouldn't be an admin" attitude really isn't fitting the epoch community as I knew it.
Even Epoch didn't get here magically overnight. I guarantee they've run into things they don't know, but work through it.
I could see where some admins never had to edit a host file. I've only had to change it maybe a dozen times out of all my game servers and projects over the years.
We ALL knew nothing at one time, and we ALL learned by research and asking questions.
You wont make them better admins, by being rude. It's just disappointing to see.
 
"Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it." - Steven Wright
 
Thank you M3Editor2 for maybe the simplest solution for this issue. I just edited in notepad++ like everything else, but this is probably the quickest and easiest.