hambeast

I think ham is on the payroll!!!

mkay, so why is he banned first of all?  
 
Why  is he filing DCMA takedowns.  Not only to Awol but to the file host I used.
 
I don't trust his motives here, while there was nothing bad in the code I looked through, the way he is hosting the server list is suspicious.  Look through his forums, people can't get their servers to show up without messaging him about it.
 
What happens if you get into an argument with macca? bam, server is now unlisted.  No thanks.
 
I agree, we need a fully open source launcher/server list.  This way there's no questions about who is pulling what strings and if somebody fails to update it because of a new patch the community can take over.  Unlike DZC of DZL.  What happens when BIS comes down hard on macca and he has to shut his servers down.  Is he going to still be updating DZL?  doubtful. 

As far as I know, DotJosh was not running a network of DayZ Epoch servers, therefore he was "just a software developer" with no interest of conflict whatsoever.
(True that he became lazy maintaining it which is a different matter can be officially bitched about lol).
 
It is not the same in this software's case... So once again, we need someone to:
( 1 ) put massive amounts of his personal time to create a nice launcher software
( 2 ) and then remove himself from the position of power (of banning/approving servers) and release the software in GPL compatible license.
 
Will it happen? Most likely not.
Will 'situation aware' people -such as previous poster above hambeast- support a launcher software project, which will result in giving a single individual a massive power of making servers visible/invisible on a whim? Most likely not.

mkay, so why is he banned first of all?  
 
Why  is he filing DCMA takedowns.  Not only to Awol but to the file host I used.
 
I don't trust his motives here, while there was nothing bad in the code I looked through, the way he is hosting the server list is suspicious.  Look through his forums, people can't get their servers to show up without messaging him about it.
 
What happens if you get into an argument with macca? bam, server is now unlisted.  No thanks.
 
I agree, we need a fully open source launcher/server list.  This way there's no questions about who is pulling what strings and if somebody fails to update it because of a new patch the community can take over.  Unlike DZC of DZL.  What happens when BIS comes down hard on macca and he has to shut his servers down.  Is he going to still be updating DZL?  doubtful. 

As most of us agree here, DayZ Commander's lack of updates in a reasonable time period hurt the community.
 
If there's any developer out there that's "stepping up" and developing an alternative DayZ Mod launcher to help the community, he better license his work under GPL -or a compatible license- & release the source code accordingly. Anything short of that is just difficult to believe. This is especially true when the "stepping up" action comes from parties selling Epoch benefits online.

DayZ Commander is currently in a bad situation, harming the community by continuing to present some not-up-to-date servers to unaware players and we do not want this situation to repeat - correct?
 
If we agree on the goal then we can discuss the WHYs (about my suggestions above):
     If the source is not available, another member of the community will not have the chance to take it up if and when the current developer loses interest or becomes unavailable to maintain the software.
     If the source is available (open source) but without a matching free to modify & redistribute license (GPL compatible), whomever modifies & redistributes the work will be legally in a losing spot.
 
It all comes down to motivation why this work was put out. If it is here to help community what I suggested is the best way to help community. For example:
   It might have been put out to gain player base as milestone #1 (say about a million downloads).
   And then, with its potential automatic update features, it might put back CCG and whatever other affiliated branding/community/company logos.
   Which will then be clearly out of favor of Epoch management but who cares when they have 1 million downloads and (for example) about 300K active users.
 
I am not claiming the above is the hidden/evil master plan. What I am saying is this: If you are indeed putting effort on this and sharing your work for the benefit of community, then do it in a way which will clearly serve the community best; which will not be dependant on
( a ) one single individual's (original developer) future availability (as he might just become unavailable for any reason)
( b ) and his future generiousity (as he might just change his mind to remove branding at n million downloads/active users) and convert this to a commercial product.
 
Otherwise you might claim you are here to help community, and some might think it is just to inject your product into the market which is clearly open in DotJosh's lack of interest/update.
If the licensing is sorted I will be happy to promote this software as I will be convinced it is here to genuinely help the community and fill a big launcher gap we have today.

DCMA, you gotta be kidding me.  I posted the link to the source so others could analyze it and it wasn't even the latest build either, was about a week old.
 
Anyone who is interested in decompiling the code please visit the good folks over at telerik, they make a great product called Just Decompile. It is free for non commercial use.  Link here: http://www.telerik.com/products/decompiler.aspx
 
for future reference, any .net assembly or executable can be fully decompiled.  So there is really no point in removing my posts...

Honestly, after more thoughts about the DZL by macca, I have serious doubts about its integrity.  It is put out by a server host that is for profit.  Meaning if they are not on top of the charts, they are losing money.  They have a clear conflict of interest in the rankings of servers and are pulling the server listings in the program from their own source.  Yes, they appear to aggregate the steam data but we have no way of knowing how they are weighting the results.
 
for those interested, here is the decompiled source: -SNIP-

DCMA, you gotta be kidding me.  I posted the link to the source so others could analyze it and it wasn't even the latest build either, was about a week old.
 
Anyone who is interested in decompiling the code please visit the good folks over at telerik, they make a great product called Just Decompile. It is free for non commercial use.  Link here: http://www.telerik.com/products/decompiler.aspx
 
for future reference, any .net assembly or executable can be fully decompiled.  So there is really no point in removing my posts...

Yes the application checks out, there are no malicious articles of code included that I could find. (confirmed with latest build as of 2 min ago)

Trialling that fix on my Namalsk OverPoch server and can't get the issue to reproduce.

hey now, DZC still works just fine for 99% of the community...

hey now, DZC still works just fine for 99% of the community...

Our server died after the update.  RIP Dayz Noobs Only.  
 
We'll see you guys on the other side when Arma 3 & Epoch are out.  1 year from now????

hey now, DZC still works just fine for 99% of the community...

Just replied to a PM about this.  You need to do the following to make epoch use the new mission files:
 
change:
} count getArray (configFile >> "cfgLoot" >> getText(_lootType)); to:
} count getArray (missionConfigFile >> "cfgLoot" >> getText(_lootType)); edit: just want to say there's probably a bug in the default loot tables regarding zombies... Changing it over to my mission file defined loot tables seems to clear it up.  Also added a check to make sure that it logs issues if they are thrown.
 
 
Here's my whole zombie_generate.sqf
https://gist.github.com/deadfred666/49a26c8b1b47f89ed812

very true, i just wish 112555 did too :)

hey now, DZC still works just fine for 99% of the community...

hey now, DZC still works just fine for 99% of the community...

Still happens with it disabled on mine.

I reckon a3 epoch will be ready before this wild crazy ass situation gets sorted....  :wacko:

same.

My pleasure lol, not all here have one......., ask Hambeast ;)

It will be announced on our social media sites and here.

He was hit by a bus and all source code was lost as it was written on paper and a dog came by and ate it all :(