Sandman1980 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I can´t understand why satchel and explosive must be in the game. With all the people complaining about how bug is the construction, with people vaultin over the walls and enter the bases. Is necessary that have this explosives in game to ruin more the experience? I am not against raiding bases, but the game will be more fun and challenging if to enter a enemy base the players must wait until the base owners make a mistake (ej. enter to their base and get killed by and organizated attack, let the doors open, etc.). Today with the use of explosives the people wait until the population of the server down (and the owners of bases go to sleep) and the only thing that they must to do is go to the bases and blow them up. So again, what is the benefit of Satchel and Explosive charges? some Dev can tell me an convincing answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadajin Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Because build limit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flosstradamus Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Have you ever parked a car over a satchel charge sat a few 100 meters away and waited for someone to come by and touched the bomb off? It's fucking hilarious. TayTayTheKiller, stonXer, MGT and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris72 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 ^^^^ THAT is why lol Or better yet, bring down a military tower while there are 4 dudes in it, a chopper that just took off, a gas station. When fixing something, you fix the root cause otherwise it's a band aid on a broken leg. Root cause in this case is the construction mechanics, it's still alpha...there will be growing pains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 It is nice for base raiding as long as the satchels are not too common and duping has been fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangeCreeds Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 It's so bad at the minute just because of the way loot is done, when they have sorted loot tables and you can only get that sort of stuff from Military areas it's going to alot less common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1980 Posted November 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Nic, if you need to use explosives for raiding a base is because you want to steal that base when none of the oweners are in the server. Again what is the fun in steal all the things of a base without a real fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadajin Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 even if the owners are online still need to breach teh base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedfox Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Again what is the fun in steal all the things of a base without a real fight? Old bittervet Eve player here : Because of the tears it creates on forums like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garack Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 remove satchels in a base building game or make some walls undestryoable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayTayTheKiller Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 remove satchels in a base building game or make some walls undestryoable. A.K.A carebear mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Solem Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 remove satchels in a base building game or make some walls undestryoable.Or weed out the weaksauce players?Let's go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Nic, if you need to use explosives for raiding a base is because you want to steal that base when none of the oweners are in the server. Again what is the fun in steal all the things of a base without a real fight? I have used explosives a few times to raid a base when the owners are inside and trying to defend it. I try to blow up their walls to gain entry and cqb with them, but most time it collapses the building they are in and they are easy pickings from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1980 Posted November 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 Error nedfox and TayTay, if i say this if because i do it. I and only one team mate taking us only 30 minutes enter to a base, steal all the things, destroy is frenquency and dissarm all the base. After this i see the game is not fun if player this way, because of this i make this Thread. I can understand Nic the use you do to the explosives, plant thay have a risk. But my complain is how the most of the players use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadajin Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 It would be a good Idea to make satchels as rare as lockboxes maybe so peoaple have to ser 3 or 4 explosive charges at every door. This way the option is there if you want it but it's hard to do and with charges there is a good chance the building will still be standing. Besides the point of the game is to build your entire base out of cinder / corugate... not use a run down house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Man Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 So what your saying is I should wait for them to get on even though I have no idea who they were, I raided a base that was clearly a duped base because of the amount of cinder that was there and the stuff they had on their 30+ metal shelves. I waited until I knew I had enough charges so I could take all the doors down, when I got there I was disappointed they were not home but didn't stop me from doing what I planned on doing. 3 story cinder base has to come down!!! Drazah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexus Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 What he's saying is your character should remain online like in a 'sleeping bag' in your base so when the base is raided you can kill the sleeping players. BUT he is also saying people should receive SMS text alerts if there is loud noise outside their base so they have the option to log on and defend... ah the dream... That or he wants ez mode. I'm sure there will be ez mode carebear servers, there already are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangeCreeds Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 SMS texts? This isn't a life mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knawx Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yeah, they just need to make walls stronger and require more of a beating to destroy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthyPark Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 relax guys, serverfiles is soon out and then the servers that don't like satchel charges will remove them from the loottable/traders . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Solem Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 AFAIK the devs have a plan for this. HAVE FAITH BRETHREN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=BS=Logan Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yesterday i entered a base with 3 layers of walls only with the letters "v" and "z"...i didn't even need no satchel nor c4 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Yesterday i entered a base with 3 layers of walls only with the letters "v" and "z"...i didn't even need no satchel nor c4 ... =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimmyantz Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I personally think there is nothing wrong with satchel charges in a base building game. Once the duping has been taken care of, they will not be as easy to horde. When that time comes, you just have multi-layered security in your base, let them satchel one part, but then get stuck on another. Also, waiting until the owners of the base are not online is the best tactic if you ask me, least risk, brilliant idea :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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