nightmare Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, but I'm guessing we'll need to use these new id's for things like infistar and other mods that use player ID as BetterDeadThanZed mentioned....?this will working without an issue.all what to do, is change your Player ID in the config with your Steam ID... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDeadThanZed Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, but I'm guessing we'll need to use these new id's for things like infistar and other mods that use player ID as BetterDeadThanZed mentioned....? I don't use Infistar so I'm guessing that it does the same thing as the Epoch Admin Tools and it uses UID, not PlayerID, to determine who is an admin so there shouldn't be any problems with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenturrac Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 So which one is again linked to your character in the database? UID or PlayerID? As I said: too many numbers for a single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDeadThanZed Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 So which one is again linked to your character in the database? UID or PlayerID? As I said: too many numbers for a single game. UID is a long unique number for each player. If you check your profile in Arma 2, you'll find it. It stays the same for all players across all servers and all Arma 2 games. CharacterID is generated with each player's life and is a progressive number in the server's database. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure what PlayerID is. I don't have access to my database right now because I'm at work so I can't check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 I don't use Infistar so I'm guessing that it does the same thing as the Epoch Admin Tools and it uses UID, not PlayerID, to determine who is an admin so there shouldn't be any problems with that.sorry i mean PlayerUIDas example my UID:PlayerUID: 16953158 (OLD)now with the new Beta:PlayerUID: 76561197983663439 (steamID) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDeadThanZed Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 sorry i mean PlayerUID as example my UID: PlayerUID: 16953158 (OLD) now with the new Beta: PlayerUID: 76561197983663439 (steamID) Ok then. That clarifies it. It also means that for people like me, that use a permanent plot pole mod that uses the UID (PlayerUID) for all buildables now have bases that can no longer be maintained.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Ok then. That clarifies it. It also means that for people like me, that use a permanent plot pole mod that uses the UID (PlayerUID) for all buildables now have bases that can no longer be maintained....thats right, and also you will get a new character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenturrac Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Quickly looked into a server database. PlayerUID is connected to your PlayerName in the player_data PlayerUID is connected to your CharacterID in the player_login (but that is not really important) PlayerUID is connected to your CharacterID in the character_data Dont have access to code or my account right now. So the PlayerUID is the UID or the PlayerID? Edit: posted after reading this comments above. Sry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranoko Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 thats right, and also you will get a new character so im guessing people will start on the coast again.. Thats going to be fun lol. Guess we could always copy and past there gear into the new character ID. will be fully testing this patch as soon as i get off work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenturrac Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Red it now. That stuff makes sense, but I dont think that you will find a solution for that, BetterThanZed. You just cant predict what the new number of the player will be. Which leads us again back to the problem I mentioned before. Beta patches will appear randomly. Clients will always load them before playing the game and these beta patches can destroy quite some stuff. So there is a risk in every new day from now on :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranoko Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Red it now. That stuff makes sense, but I dont think that you will find a solution for that, BetterThanZed. You just cant predict what the new number of the player will be. Which leads us again back to the problem I mentioned before. Beta patches will appear randomly. Clients will always load them before playing the game and these beta patches can destroy quite some stuff. So there is a risk in every new day from now on :D I guess were going to need rolling messages telling people to shut off Auto update lol.... *dies inside* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenturrac Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 And everyone who doesn't do it will never get back on your server since there is no known way to patch to a specific beta version. I would rather go with the fear of the appearance of a game breaking beta patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 the good with the steam ID. you can check your player base for VAC Banned accounts. and ban them precautionary from your server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDeadThanZed Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 thats right, and also you will get a new character Oh shit. That's right. Are they purposely trying to destroy the Dayz mods? A new "UID" means a new character... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenturrac Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Well, how bad is that really? 90% of the dayz player die once a day. You still have the old character data. Just copy the data over. On request of course. Additional admin work for two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDeadThanZed Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Well, how bad is that really? 90% of the dayz player die once a day. You still have the old character data. Just copy the data over. On request of course. Additional admin work for two days. When you play exclusively PvE, it's a big deal. We have players that have bases that they've been working on, loot they're carrying. Many survive weeks without dieing. I also have a permanent plot pole mod that ties the plot poles and buildables to a player's UID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenturrac Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Database query that replaces the database appearance of the old one with the new one. As I said: do it only on request like in your server forum or so, its easy but a few days of admin work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmare Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 UPDATE `Character_DATA` SET `PlayerUID`='NEW_STEAM_ID_HERE' WHERE `PlayerUID`='OLD_PLAYERUID_HERE'; or through a update formular where the player can enter his old and new one Kenturrac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY357LX Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Should we be using DayZ 1.8.0.3 with Epoch 1.0.5(.1) ? Or doesn't it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDeadThanZed Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 You don't need Dayz installed to use Epoch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY357LX Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 You don't need Dayz installed to use Epoch. Yeah I know that but I thought Epoch used parts of DayZ's code for things like loot generation, zombie spawning/pathing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDeadThanZed Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah I know that but I thought Epoch used parts of DayZ's code for things like loot generation, zombie spawning/pathing etc. Nope, all of the files for Epoch are contained in the @epoch and @epoch_server folders. It's been developed independently from an older version of the Dayz mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incar Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Not sure if it's entirely true, but from information I've been given, DayZ Commander will be updated to work with Steam Servers once the whole Gamespy drop takes place. That being said dealing with patches should still be just as easy. That's ofc if this information is correct, fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenturrac Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Sounds good. Any source on that information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incar Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Sounds good. Any source on that information? My server host said he got in contact with DotJosh, and that's the info that was given to him. Here's the exact quote. As many of you are aware, GameSpy shutdown is nearing (30th June 2014) we are not 100% sure what problems this will cause however we have been in contact with DotJosh (Creator of DayZ Commander) and he assures us his program will remain operational past this date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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