airtonix Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Forget anything made by Bohemia... it's crap from a software developers point of view. Head over to http://outterra.com and checkout the tech demo, see that they give you access to use Javascript as the modding language and rejoice that the engine uses all cpu cores. Features (src : http://www.outerra.com/wfeatures.html ) Realistically looking terrain with high detail Unlimited visibility, detail ranging from thousands of kilometers down to centimeters Real time atmospheric rendering Rendering of vast dense forests and grass Seamless transition from space down to the planet surface Adaptive LOD with continuous transitions. Elevation data are preprocessed using special wavelet compression, the required level of detail is extracted effectively on the fly Partitioned compressed dataset can be downloaded progressively over the web Fractal refinement mimicking the natural processes (erosion, rocks, overhangs) Procedural texture generator combining mathematical models and climatic data Bitmap overlays for specific areas Vector data - roads, rivers, land class polygons Uses OpenGL 3.3 Dynamic shadows Fully asynchronous multi-threaded design able to utilize all available CPU cores Terrain and fractal algorithms runing completely on the GPU Stable frame rate system Supports arbitrary and varying resolution of elevation datasets, refined to centimeter resolution by fractal algorithms Embedded web browser allowing for direct web service integration Supports COLLADA 3D model file format Integrates a Flight Dynamics Model library for high fidelity simulation of aircraft, rockets Global physics engine for simulation of vehicle physics and collision detection For players and storytellers, the game engine is capable of rending a 1:1 map of earth with all that awesome orbit to ground transition through the atmosphere (imagine the sub-orbital halo jumps!) I for one would love to see Epoch developed for this Engine. JohnesNumb and SurvivalServers.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbawol Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 You maybe on to something, I really like this engine and already purchased the Anteworld sandbox game (alpha). It is still really early in the development and will be keeping a close eye on it. Trinii, Radiix, Valla79 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namindu Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Changing game engine would ruin everything. Most people know who to code for Arma, changing it to this one, who wreck the development for everyone. Move to Arma 3 in my mind is kind of bad, since only a few people can play with there current pc's. But its kind of the same coding, so development seems easy. Plus people would have to re-buy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flosstradamus Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 That game engine looks absolutely amazing. Also to the poster above Javascript is really easy to code in much easier then arma code. You have to buy arma 3 anyways to play epoch if they want to play Arma 3 Epoch if they make it using that engine regardless. 60$ isn't worth Arma 3 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregarious Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Changing game engine would ruin everything. Most people know who to code for Arma, changing it to this one, who wreck the development for everyone. Move to Arma 3 in my mind is kind of bad, since only a few people can play with there current pc's. But its kind of the same coding, so development seems easy. Plus people would have to re-buy the game. All of this was implied with changing engines. It's also acceptable, and welcomed. PLEASE ruin everything for the chance at a new, clean, optimized engine and netcode. charlieteh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuBz Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not a great sign... the website being down this morning..could not cope with a couple of views:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Some of the videos show some really stunning features :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr1nk Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 That definitely looks very nice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oshydaka Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I've tried a few days ago Outerra with the middle-earth map. And, well, that's really impressive !! I think this engine is really awesome ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr1nk Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 So, how does the experience gained from Arma2 Epoch development transfer over to this new engine? Or does it at all? Just asking since Arma2/3 do share similarities and I'm assuming that moving to anything new would involve some major rework from the ground up. If 6-8 months was the original work estimate for A3 Epoch, that would probably get pushed out if a switch is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFDP Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 $60 for Arma 3 is very much worth it. Ive been having more fun on there than I ever did on A2. Runs so smooth on ultra on my pc too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I bought mine launch date when it was only £20 ($32) and i've already put 700 hours into it. Even at $60 for the time you get out of it, it's a bargain :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValdisMD Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 That game engine looks absolutely amazing. Also to the poster above Javascript is really easy to code in much easier then arma code. You have to buy arma 3 anyways to play epoch if they want to play Arma 3 Epoch if they make it using that engine regardless. 60$ isn't worth Arma 3 imo. Arma 3 is almost constantly on sale, I bought it for 30 during alpha, my friend got it for 30 during new year holidays i bet by the time epoch a3 is going to be released you'd catch it on sale at least once. But I'm agree 60 bucks is a rip of for this game, 30 is a good price though. It doesn't look that amazing yet, and I don't see an awful lot of mods for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValdisMD Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I bought mine launch date when it was only £20 ($32) and i've already put 700 hours into it. Even at $60 for the time you get out of it, it's a bargain :) I really can't find nothing in A3 that would make me spend more than like an hour in the game. May be you have some servers you can share? i will be glad to play it on some good server, may be that will get me into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 If you'd asked me last week i could of, one of our forum admins spends hours and hours making custom missions and addons. Click my forum link in the sig below, speak to a guy named WinstonSmith, he's our A3 expert :) We also use our Epoch dedi to host A3 content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassAsster Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 yeah, i gotta say - if you did a stand alone dayz epoch for this engine, I'd buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuBz Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Can't say I'm a fan of A3 at all actually loath it but times change and things have to move on... def looking forward to epoch on new grafics etc.. hopefully they WON'T adopt the damn horrible and outright stupid gear system though... thats what irritates me so much nearly as bad as the dayz sa gear.. I'm getting used to it but boy what a grind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthraxx Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Must say that outterra looks pretty damn awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurvivalServers.com Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Embedded Chromium browser.. Oculus Rift support.. 4 years in development.. Amazing, this has some real potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizweak Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Been watching Outerra for a couple years now, pretty amazing stuff. However, building all the required assets and doing all the rigging would be an enormous task in itself. Also, has any MP support been announced/demo'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiix Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 It looks really amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pherousa Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Dev's if it is possible use this engine, and if you would charge money for this mod i would buy it. Maybe make it a standalone game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airtonix Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Changing game engine would ruin everything. Most people know who to code for Arma, changing it to this one, who wreck the development for everyone. Move to Arma 3 in my mind is kind of bad, since only a few people can play with there current pc's. But its kind of the same coding, so development seems easy. Plus people would have to re-buy the game. Eh, I don't even bother developing Arma mods because the language and development tools required are antiquated, frustratingly restrictive and require compiling even in local development mode (which is another rant). A move to an engine that uses Javascript would actually make it more approachable, the possibilities would be far greater, development cycles would be rapid. Additionally it also seems that the server could be capable of supporting horizontal scaled deployments, which is something practically any game server requires that claims to support large maps and big player populations. I would be confident in saying that Epoch won't be coming to this engine any time soon (not until a great deal more tooling and system architecture is supplied), but we will see one like Epoch in the next few years. With regards to transferable knowledge and the value therein, I would say that most of the value is in the conceptual game design philosophy, not the code written. Remember, BIS are not the heralds of software/game development "best practices", and I believe that writing software in the "deep end", has given the epoch team a good overview and deep loathing of many immutable facets of BIS products. Despite all that, I eagerly await Epoch for Arma 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeinola Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Use Outerra (or similar new engine), make Epoch standalone and i will buy it for sure. Arma engines are crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flosstradamus Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Use Outerra (or similar new engine), make Epoch standalone and i will buy it for sure. Arma engines are crap... The reason why I think they are making it for arma 3 is because of that contest that BI is running. IF they win which they will they get 500,000 euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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