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Been a player and supporter of Epoch a while now and have had several epoch servers. Anyway, really loving the mod and it's head and shoulders the best flavor of dayz around now.

 

There's just one small thing that's missing now for me,  additional weapon content!  Surely a mod of Epoch's quality could start to think about adding the additional weapons some of the other mods have. I personally recommend the Robert Hammer weapon packs. It would be cracking to have some variety in the weapons and would make ammo scavenging much more difficult too. 

 

 

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Excellent, but if the developers would consider keeping away from more of the military based packs and expanding the civilian style guns more that would be excellent. Breaking point has tons of different military guns and I left that mod because the game became a bit too easy with improved hardware. M1SE1, for example, used DMR ammo and did similar damage but things like the ACOG had a dual sight allowing it to be used up to 800 meters away effectively or with a tiny reddot style sight up close and personal. It was like crossing a DMR and M14 AIM and creating one gun that works as well as the two others. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE that gun, but I think it is a bit too much for Epoch. Same thing with ACRs, especially the silenced ones. Good damage and quiet with nice sight options. 

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One thing I'm wondering about, I added M60 and some others, but when I bought it from the trader it took up my backpack slot, but when I threw it away I would see the backpack again. Same thing that happens with hacked in weapons(M107) in vanilla DayZ I think, is this how it is or can I fix it?

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One thing I'm wondering about, I added M60 and some others, but when I bought it from the trader it took up my backpack slot, but when I threw it away I would see the backpack again. Same thing that happens with hacked in weapons(M107) in vanilla DayZ I think, is this how it is or can I fix it?

There should be a _DZ class name for the m107 - not sure about the m60

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Cheers for the feedback Axle. As Merculese suggested it would ideally be better to add civilian type weapons and I personalyl dont want to see a flurry of OP military grade weapons so with that in mind here are some of my recommendations from ARMA 2;-

 

Remmington Shotguns

3 More civilian and military remington shotguns

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=18276

 

D3Z Shotguns

two additional shotguns Lanber 2097 and Browning Maxu that would fit nicely into the residential, farm and police/fire loot tables!

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12338

 

RH pistol pack

Robert Hammer pack. Adds loads of pistols

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12800

 

RH Smg pack

Robert Hammer pack again adds a few decent SMGs

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=13788

 

RH MK18 Pack

Robert Hammers selection of Mk 16 and 18s

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=10540

 

RH M4/M16

Robert Hammers' M4 and M16 varients

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=8056

 

RH PDW pack

Rober Hammer Personal Defence Weapons

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12214

 

RH HK 416 Pack

Robert Hammer pack. More of a military loot pack but loads of 416 Variants

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=11789

 

RH M14 Pack

Robert Hammer again,  more military loot

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=11374

 

 

Austrian weapon packs

Bit more heavy artillery pack that most guns would fit better into into high end military loot table, but the p80 is stilla  good residential/low military spawn! Includes; P80 Pistol,  STG 58,  MG74, PAR 66/79 and HS.50

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=15551

 

C7/C8 Gun Pack

Whole range of decent weapons like a C6GMPG, C7, C8, C9AR and Browning HP

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=21642

 

L119A1 Pack

Adds 14 different variants of the L119A1, each in 3 different camo varients (42 different weapons).

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=15429

 

 

Magpul AK47

Simply the Magpul AK47

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=20463

 


 


 

Yougoslav weaponpack

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=17026

 

 

Krinkov Pack
Four modernised AKS-74Us including suppressed variants, and Micro Aimpoint variants.
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=16275
 

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It should be fairly easy for a server owner/admin to add in any weapon packs. But if you can provide a link we can look into the ones you've requested.

 

This is, unfortunately, not true with some server hosters, like dayz.st, where they won't allow you to upload additional pbos and signatures.

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This is, unfortunately, not true with some server hosters, like dayz.st, where they won't allow you to upload additional pbos and signatures.

 

 

Yea we've struggled to add content with .st. I thought building them into the mod would just make things  a bit easier for server owners and add to the appeal of the mod.

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I Would love to see the Robert Hammer packs available on epoch, been trying to figure out how to get them on the server since i started it, basically it seems impossible to do unless you guys add it to the epoch mod or if i make my own mod on your mod, because i bet no one will play on the server if they have to install stuff manually besides what comes from commander.

 

RH MK18 Pack

RH M4/M16

RH HK 416 Pack

RH M14 Pack

RH pistol pack

 

Also if possible it would be really cool with even more clothes options, dont get me wrong, i love the mod as it is, would just be awesome but not needed with more options! :)

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It should be fairly easy for a server owner/admin to add in any weapon packs. But if you can provide a link we can look into the ones you've requested.

 

 

This would also require client side download of their content to be able to see and hear the guns. If they do it securely where you must have the addon to connect, then they cant get random new players to join who do not know how to add the addon. If they allow any addon and only provide signed keys, anyone can connect but it opens up the door to major exploiting with false keys allowing players to put in almost any addon they want and connect to a server (bight solid hot pink player skins, translucent trees, see through buildings, or their own addon "hacks" etc).

 

Not that epoch needs tons of OP military grade stuff, but some simple stuff would be amazing. For starters, do what dayz 1.8+ did with pistol and melee damage. It returned pistol damage to pre 1.62 levels (4500 for .45 acp, and 1389 for 9mm) and upgraded melee damage for different weapons to 2x to 3x its current damage. Find a nice pistol pack to add to Epoch, thats a serious lack of options when there is always the "best" option to only go with. I for one would love to see a sawn off double barrel shotty , or a small melee knife or tire iron that can go into the pistol slot, or even a tertiary slot like dayz 1.8+ has.

 

My vote is for weapons with attachments, and choose civilian type weaponry over super crazy high grade military stuff.

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Cheers for the feedback Axle. As Merculese suggested it would ideally be better to add civilian type weapons and I personalyl dont want to see a flurry of OP military grade weapons so with that in mind here are some of my recommendations from ARMA 2;-

 

Remmington Shotguns

3 More civilian and military remington shotguns

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=18276

 

D3Z Shotguns

two additional shotguns Lanber 2097 and Browning Maxu that would fit nicely into the residential, farm and police/fire loot tables!

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12338

 

RH pistol pack

Robert Hammer pack. Adds loads of pistols

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12800

 

RH Smg pack

Robert Hammer pack again adds a few decent SMGs

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=13788

 

RH MK18 Pack

Robert Hammers selection of Mk 16 and 18s

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=10540

 

RH M4/M16

Robert Hammers' M4 and M16 varients

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=8056

 

RH PDW pack

Rober Hammer Personal Defence Weapons

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12214

 

RH HK 416 Pack

Robert Hammer pack. More of a military loot pack but loads of 416 Variants

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=11789

 

RH M14 Pack

Robert Hammer again,  more military loot

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=11374

 

 

Austrian weapon packs

Bit more heavy artillery pack that most guns would fit better into into high end military loot table, but the p80 is stilla  good residential/low military spawn! Includes; P80 Pistol,  STG 58,  MG74, PAR 66/79 and HS.50

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=15551

 

C7/C8 Gun Pack

Whole range of decent weapons like a C6GMPG, C7, C8, C9AR and Browning HP

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=21642

 

L119A1 Pack

Adds 14 different variants of the L119A1, each in 3 different camo varients (42 different weapons).

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=15429

 

 

Magpul AK47

Simply the Magpul AK47

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=20463

 

 

 

Yougoslav weaponpack

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=17026

 

 

Krinkov Pack

Four modernised AKS-74Us including suppressed variants, and Micro Aimpoint variants.

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=16275

 

 

I looked at the RH weapons quickly, I like the variety, but it seems they are simply incompatible with all the existing ones due to massive recoil. That might be a good thing, but if the current M14/DMR with no recoil stay, the 7.62mm RH weapons are useless.

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I looked at the RH weapons quickly, I like the variety, but it seems they are simply incompatible with all the existing ones due to massive recoil. That might be a good thing, but if the current M14/DMR with no recoil stay, the 7.62mm RH weapons are useless.

 

That is a very good thing! more recoil = good :)

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This would also require client side download of their content to be able to see and hear the guns.

It wont require client side download, that is what we are talking about here, trying to get them to add them directly to epoch so that we dont need client side downloads to add more weapons. Preferably just add them to the database so admins can choose themself if they want to use or not.

I will not have these stuff drop in normal places on my server, i will make them rare drops in hard AI missions only, but thats up to everyone to do as they wish :)

 

Important note here too, there is no need to "vote" against this since you do not need to have them enabled on your server if you dont want too.

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  • 3 weeks later...

I would love to be able to customize weapons in game. I think rather than add 100 weapons to the game, add 10 that can be customized to 1000's of combinations. There are weapon packs out that allow this: http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12077&highlight=ASC+CUSTOM+WEAPONS or http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=17943 . 

The only modification I think i would like is to have to either of these packs is to have a suppressed rifle be able to shoot standard ammo, just make it quieter than standard. But also they can shoot sd ammo that is very quiet, but at reduced performance.

 

The one weapon that i have not seen anywhere, that i would love is a suppressed 1911. 

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Question for Axle, will any if these weapon packs be added in the next Epoch patch?

If we received permission and license from the Author, yes.  If not, No.

Numerous mods are using that team's weapon packs without permission for redistribution and it doesn't necessarily make it OK to follow suit.

Don't get me wrong, I would love nothing more than to incorporate the M-21 and other m-14 variants and just delete the non-recoil version entirely...among numerous other wonderful weapons in that pack.

Alas, I don't think anyone has received official contact from the author :(

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Yea we've struggled to add content with .st. I thought building them into the mod would just make things  a bit easier for server owners and add to the appeal of the mod.

 

You can add pbo content very easily  on .ST.   Send us the keys you want to use in an email ticket, then once we confirm that the key is installed on your node, copy the pbo and bisign files to the @bliss/addons folder in FTP and add the pbo to the allowed load list in your mission file.

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