Poor client FPS.

[Grahame]

13 minutes ago, He-Man said:

Have you set simulationhandler to false? This is the most important!

Yes, and implemented new server PBO. No difference to users. One point, not sure of relevence but: I do not have client FPS issues, but I never got great performance due to really crap built-in GPU (one reason I'm a server owner/developer I guess). I get my usual 14-15FPS. People with good GPUs are getting less than 5... Is that useful info?

I will take the load_vehicles and let you know in 20 mins... need to smoke half a pack of cigarettes right now

[vbawol]

@Grahame  can you remove your self as admin and see if you get the same issue?

[Grahame]

I will do, but two of my admins lastv night had the issue before hotfix

[vbawol]

8 minutes ago, Grahame said:

need to smoke half a pack of cigarettes right now

lol I feel you, I will likely have head full of grey hair by the time we reach 1.0 at this rate 

[Brian Soanes]

No client fps issues for us, if anything client fps is better since 0.3.9

[vbawol]

11 minutes ago, Brian Soanes said:

No client fps issues for us, if anything client fps is better since 0.3.9

Good to hear, thanks for the report! 

[Grahame]

Okay, so I have the EpochConfig.hpp fix and the new epoch_server.PBO hotfix. I replaced EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf from 0.3.8 and players FPS is good now and right now there are no graphic glitches or inventory crashes!!! 

Will monitor the situation as more people come on this afternoon. Thanks @vbawol @He-Man and @klinGiii

[klinGiii]

Took the 0.3.8.0 EPOCH_load_vehicles .

renamed the things awol merged an hour ago to the old ones. (from vehicleSimulationOld to vehicleSimulation)

 

Set vehicleSimulation = false; 

 

FPS seem to be ok. I`ll wait to our next restart and give Feedback then again.

 

Ty @vbawol  @He-Man @Grahame

[vbawol]

Ok so if its not the simulation handler, the other major changes since 0.3.8 are:

• changed initial spawn location to [0,0,0] to speed up object creation

https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/blob/release/Sources/epoch_server/compile/epoch_vehicle/EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf#L65

• disallow vehicle damage

https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/blob/release/Sources/epoch_server/compile/epoch_vehicle/EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf#L68

• 120 second delay in re-allowing and setting damage+hit-points. (To fix issues with damaged vehicles on spawn and disappearing vehicles)

https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/blob/release/Sources/epoch_server/compile/epoch_vehicle/EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf#L224-L252

[Grahame]

24 minutes ago, vbawol said:

Ok so if its not the simulation handler, the other major changes since 0.3.8 are:

• changed initial spawn location to [0,0,0] to speed up object creation

https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/blob/release/Sources/epoch_server/compile/epoch_vehicle/EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf#L65

• disallow vehicle damage

https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/blob/release/Sources/epoch_server/compile/epoch_vehicle/EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf#L68

• 120 second delay in re-allowing and setting damage+hit-points. (To fix issues with damaged vehicles on spawn and disappearing vehicles)

https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/blob/release/Sources/epoch_server/compile/epoch_vehicle/EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf#L224-L252

If it helps, I was already using the vehicle immunity functionality of 0.3.8 to protect vehicles for 240s after restart. The code in 0.3.9 was heavily altered though. The use of the old EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf was the clincher though, since I already had "simulationHandler=false" in my EpochConfig.hpp when I migrated it to 0.3.9

[rvg?!]

Are the 0.3.9 serverfiles updated yet?

[Richie]

0.3.9

[rvg?!]

I meant the modified  EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf ...

[vbawol]

1 minute ago, rvg?! said:

I meant the modified  EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf ...

The majority here seem to have an issue with it so I guess I will revert it and push a new build. So far is @Brian Soanes the only one having no issues with the 0.3.9 version?

[umfufu]

No problems with fps here also , server up and 5 players all ok with 0.3.9 b561  later 12~14  more logged in but still ok

 

[He-Man]

2 minutes ago, umfufu said:

No problems with fps here also , server up and 5 players all ok with 0.3.9 b561  later 12~14  more logged in but still ok

 

Simulationhandler enabled or disabled?

How much Vehicles have you on the Map?

[Grahame]

Since reversion to old EPOCH_load_vehicles.sqf no issues. 13+ on, more coming. Still monitoring

EDIT: P.S. My players love the new HUD and 0.3.9 in general!

P.P.S. Over 200 vehicles loaded on my map

[umfufu]

didnt alter that so in version 0.3.9 b561 using the default

But also a very plain Epoch running no other mods  ,except a status bar

 

[82ndAB_Bravo17]

No FPS issues here (50-70), 185 vehicles or so on map, + SEM + A3EAI + blckeagles missions.

 

I wouldn't have thought that the new vehicles spawn system would have any FPS effect once they have been spawned in and 'damage enabled'.

[Grahame]

8 minutes ago, 82ndAB_Bravo17 said:

No FPS issues here (50-70), 185 vehicles or so on map, + SEM + A3EAI + blckeagles missions.

 

I wouldn't have thought that the new vehicles spawn system would have any FPS effect once they have been spawned in and 'damage enabled'.

I've got BlckEagl's, SEM, WAI, A3EAI, Zombies (with COS). I would have agreed if it wasn't that reverting to the old load script dealt with the issue. The bizarre thing is that I, will the crappiest GPU, was actually getting better FPS but others with great GPUs tanked...

[He-Man]

I have tested a lot with this problem.

0.3.9:

- First Login -> fps ok

- simulation for all vehicles is disabled (tested via script)

- Relog after a few minutes -> poor fps

- manually enabled all simulations (via script) -> fps gos up to normal level

- relog -> fps ok

- manually disable all simulations -> all ok

- relog -> poor fps

 

The same I tested with the 0.3.8 file and never had poor fps (same Server, only changed the one file)

So it must be a problem between the Vehicle load AND simulation.

 

Now I stay at the 0.3.8 vehicle load and have simulationhandler enabled with approx 180 Vehicles.

[vbawol]

0.3.9 build 562 pushed live: https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/pull/570/files
I have done 2 things: 

1.  Simplified the newer 0.3.9 load vehicles function, as I realized sleep was not needed as allowDamage does not effect scripted damage (per the BI wiki)
2. Added old load vehicle script and a epochconfig,hpp flag to use it: https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/blob/release/Server_Install_Pack/%40epochhive/epochconfig.hpp#L62 
   (default is false = use new load vehicles, set to true use old one from 0.3.8.

https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/releases

[Ghostrider-GRG]

Running this with useOldLoadVehicles = true;

At server startup client FPS has improved from 3-5 to 50+ FPS. I'll check back on the server after 2 hours or so and report back.

Update: no issues  out to 4 hours with up to 20 players, AI running around, ~360 vehicles and 4400 constructed objects.

[umfufu]

me 2 , but didnt experience problems with vanilla 0.39

Anyways raining summer and guess ever darn time i login , poring rain and no umbrella to be found