Zombies.Nu ZNU01 HardCore server EU

[Niko80]

Hi all,

 

i've been playing on this server from saturday and i see LOTS of people trying to get in but they get kicked because they are not whitelisted. The amount of players that have tried in is like 30-40 people. Why don't you guys get whitelisted http://www.lowping.org/whitelist/? The server is very good and stable. So everyone get whitelisted and join an epic Hardcore battles :) See you there 

 

BR

Niko

[ToejaM]

Yeah we're seeing exactly the same thing happen.. I think the problem is all the fake servers up at the moment, so people have options to go elsewhere. It wont be a problem when the patch is released next week for Arma 3!

[Suppe]

the server is empty because he has converted to mega hardcore without pre-warning, there was an almost permanent full server, now it is empty and deserted, it would not have to be, it was a new second opened server: zun02 is again veteran on , there are all forced to start over though playing on the hardcore server only three people, they can use their beautifully mounted convincing. (Determined an admin here, so admin abuse)

but we test epoch! epoch is to build a base and store things! that's epoch, and that's what we try! what you have now of a hardcore server with a maximum of 10 people on it? what is the point to come out for test results? what the devs about it? test is a full server life trying to get full ....

what willste currently testing? the trader work 100%, base build works 100%, all major bugs, especially those who are all duper listed and reported ....

on zun01 you can build again after Yarwood has cleared the duper base, I have also offered our 7 floors tower we built from only fun from wood in the south to delete to create space ...

it is simply a matter that it's stupid easy to relocate, there was nothing deliberate, why not just put on the new hardcore? it suddenly goes to this, without pre-warning .... test means a stable solid basis (server) to create ... not from capricious and suddenly change everything and everyone selling it?

and when the people but also connect more often? why can not the white list? `white list or how many people you owe to the hardcore server, so how many are new come to this? guarantees much less so before, or no?!?!

So our group is one of the few that really test and reported, but no matter ....

we are elsewhere restart, where not all of a sudden the whole concept is changed, without advance warning and without thinking properly! bullshit that there are only 2 bases on zun01 how many tents are full as well?

and we are not the only one who now start somewhere else, you have immediately very many of your first regular players lost, I do not think her so soon fully

now you have two empty server that can bring almost no test results because they are not busy

much more happiness, we are gone!


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link to the post in the zun forum:

https://zombies.nu/community/threads/11817/

[GungZA]

 

the server is empty because he has converted to mega hardcore without pre-warning, there was an almost permanent full server, now it is empty and deserted, it would not have to be, it was a new second opened server: zun02 is again veteran on , there are all forced to start over though playing on the hardcore server only three people, they can use their beautifully mounted convincing. (Determined an admin here, so admin abuse)

but we test epoch! epoch is to build a base and store things! that's epoch, and that's what we try! what you have now of a hardcore server with a maximum of 10 people on it? what is the point to come out for test results? what the devs about it? test is a full server life trying to get full ....

what willste currently testing? the trader work 100%, base build works 100%, all major bugs, especially those who are all duper listed and reported ....

on zun01 you can build again after Yarwood has cleared the duper base, I have also offered our 7 floors tower we built from only fun from wood in the south to delete to create space ...

it is simply a matter that it's stupid easy to relocate, there was nothing deliberate, why not just put on the new hardcore? it suddenly goes to this, without pre-warning .... test means a stable solid basis (server) to create ... not from capricious and suddenly change everything and everyone selling it?

and when the people but also connect more often? why can not the white list? `white list or how many people you owe to the hardcore server, so how many are new come to this? guarantees much less so before, or no?!?!

So our group is one of the few that really test and reported, but no matter ....

we are elsewhere restart, where not all of a sudden the whole concept is changed, without advance warning and without thinking properly! bullshit that there are only 2 bases on zun01 how many tents are full as well?

and we are not the only one who now start somewhere else, you have immediately very many of your first regular players lost, I do not think her so soon fully

now you have two empty server that can bring almost no test results because they are not busy

much more happiness, we are gone!

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link to the post in the zun forum:

https://zombies.nu/community/threads/11817/

 

I don't know what you are on about dude, they made a hardcore server and a regular server, deal with it.  The normal server is fullish, it's not empty because of the change but because people can't be bothered to find out how to whitelist themselves or they are denied whitelist because they suck at life. 

 

TBH there is not much to test right now, we are all just playing waiting for the next patch and then we'll test the new stuff.  People are quick to use testing as an excuse but truth be told we just want to play, if we find bugs while we play we report it, but at the end of the day we are just playing and every now and again some testing happens when we find something that doesn't work as expected. 

 

My point being; stop hiding behind the testing excuse, be honest, you lost your base that took a long time to build and now you are salty, but you knew that you will lose the base since it is early days and the game and servers are in constant flux, so now you are hiding behing the testing excuse.  Anyway lol, whatever.

[Suppe]

of course I 'm pissed . it's completely unnecessary ... 's nice when a new server 2 open , this can indeed run on hardcore, but why the well running full server make easy without pre-warning to hardcore and not just the new make for hardcore, then would have only a maximum of 5 players must change , so 40 players are pissed , completely unnecessary , that's what me and if only ... please all text + link to read so that you can understand everything .
that is or was just testing or playing ünnötiges erschwären , completely ünnötig . the server previously ran good, now neither of them is well attended ( even hardcore only 3 people, and on Sunday )
it's just completely illogical and unnecessary!

and in particular epoch is to build big part base , so is quite true that we test here 'm still not able to build cinder wall completely , so with all the upgrades

[YarwoodUK]

Perhaps it was a bad decision that we didn't bring up the second server with Hardcore instead - our reason for that was because it was going to be the only hardcore server at the time and then more servers came up with Hardcore, spreading the numbers and lowering the playercount, I can only apologize for that. 

 

One thing we've learnt right now is that Hardcore isn't favourable right now.

 

But you should expect a wipe at any moment with the mod being in such an early Alpha state... The primary focus is to find bugs, test features etc.

 

We also brought on the whitelist at the same time and a lot of players are failing to whitelist, entering the wrong GUID, entering steamIDs instead and cannot get in until they contact one of us.

 

There's also been a few more servers pop up since we brought up our second server which is another reason for the lower play count.

[MGT]

One thing we've learnt right now is that Hardcore isn't favourable right now.

 

Hardcore, night time, less vehicles

 

All things players reminisce about and ask for, then when they get it they stop playing <_<

[Tobias Solem]

We are still considering making ZNU01 veteran again.

And by considering, I mean, looking at the player amount during this Sunday evening.

And if it keeps on being this low, Suppentier will have third person mode to continue his base building project again.

edit: (The good thing about that is that ToeJam might have more players coming from us)

[Black_Dog]

This guy suppe does nothing but complain about hardcore mode being set, he also goes under a different name I wont mention here right now, but also seems to like connecting/disconnecting consistently into various epoch servers I have noticed. Bloody annoying individual to say the least :D

 

*unfortunately fisk that maybe the case if hardcore is dropped for epoch from your servers, as the childs play server is very stable right now. Its hard to be loyal and stick in one place if things change all the time :/ childs play server seems to dictate that it WILL be hardcore and enforced as that.

[arjona00]

Hardcore mode is real mode. Less people but better players.

Killing people using 3d perspective is not fair play.

I think that hardcore servers should exist for veterans players that love this game mode.

[Black_Dog]

Hardcore mode is real mode. Less people but better players.

Killing people using 3d perspective is not fair play.

I think that hardcore servers should exist for veterans players that love this game mode.

 

It is the only way to play tactical game like this that involves others in pvp, this see over wall bullshit and looking down from hills or from towers over many obstacles is right out simpleton mode :D - I'd love to see a chart here on age groups that prefer these two modes.

[derv]

This guy suppe does nothing but complain about hardcore mode being set, he also goes under a different name I wont mention here right now, but also seems to like connecting/disconnecting consistently into various epoch servers I have noticed. Bloody annoying individual to say the least :D

 

*unfortunately fisk that maybe the case if hardcore is dropped for epoch from your servers, as the childs play server is very stable right now. Its hard to be loyal and stick in one place if things change all the time :/ childs play server seems to dictate that it WILL be hardcore and enforced as that.

 

Correct, the CPC hardcore server will always be hardcore.  They are also running a softcore/easymode/bambi/hellokitty server for those who prefer third person and crosshairs ;)

[Black_Dog]

Correct, the CPC hardcore server will always be hardcore.  They are also running a softcore/easymode/bambi/hellokitty server for those who prefer third person and crosshairs ;)

 

Well at least that is good to know if ZU is not able to keep Hardcore up due to pressure. It is again all these servers that should probably not be hosting that are causing this, the mentality of just easily jumping into a server and not worrying about whitelist or passwords is obviously taking people away when they get kicked out a server and need to use some savvy to get actually in it :O

 

I would take a guess they dont care because they are going to lose anything they do anyhow and so a home right now sort of speak is not priority maybe. Roll on future updates where they WILL want to be on the servers that matter and hold the new stuff, this is the moment numbers I hope will increase, with MGT server being very popular right now at 70/70 caped out, this will most certainly push players on new release versions of the mod to the other officials. :D

[GasT]

I like softcore but would love to have that crosshair removed.. Please remove it..

[Suppe]

 

 

most just do not understand what it is, the server ran for about 2 weeks on veteran, and suddenly, without any warning has been the changed .... I have no problem with hardcore servers, it's all about the sudden change ... many have started there and had fun. why because what the concept change? that's what it was doing.

Just looks at the players count from the server , none on it , Sunday after noon , three people on the server . the server was previously fully ... the sudden change may not and many are for getting away from ZNU .

@black dog:
and what does that mean here I have other names and I jump around on servers? ingame always suppe, in znu forum suppentier (is the only other name). I had to book now tup three servers start, yes is true, but connecting / disconnecting Consistently into various servers I have never done, I always play a few hours when I start

So again: I do not have a problem with hardcore servers, but then should be the hardcore from the start and not just change!

I like the fight in only first person even more, but in epoch is now running times for hours around, or moving car, or builds something, because I think outside perspective even more enjoyable. but that everyone should decide that yourself: D

 

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[Black_Dog]

there is no need to worry about the change midway through server setups suppe, your items are going to be gone very shortly with a wipe anyhow on next update, I dont see why you would worry right now so much and post so many same posts over and over on ZU or here about you dont agree with changing the main server to HC and the new one to Veteran.

 

Its pointless to be concerned as its all about to go anyhow, meaning your fresh start will be on the new server just like it would of been on the first.

 

my head is full of ^&$^£%

[Niko80]

Awesome comparison video

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7zoVIsIT2A 

[GungZA]

Allthough it is hard to argue with dslyecxi there are some points he is ignoring.

 

First of all, the way you move in real life is a lot different from the way you move in a game.  In real life if you stand next to a tall fence you can pull yourself up to look over the edge for instance.  You can also peek through gaps in the wall without exposing your body.  You can contort your body in to all kinds of weird poses to get situational awerness of an area without exposing yourself, you can't do that in the game.  That is why there is 3rd person in Arma.  Indeed it can be argued that 3rd person is key to having a realistic tactical awereness in ArmA.

 

Secondly some things are just not correctly configured for 1st person.  Take a speed boat as an expample.  As the boat accelerates the nose lifts, to counter this in real life the boat driver will either be standing or in a elevated position so that he can look over and down the nose while driving.  Not so in arma, it is in fact impossible to see where you are going driving a speed boat in 1st person in this game.

 

There is a reason ArmA has 3rd person.  They would not have included it in the game if it was not essential.

 

Either case it is perfectly acceptable for a person to prefer 1st person server, just like it is acceptable for a person to prefer 3rd person enabled.  It doesn't mean they are peekers or cheats or hardcore.  It is just preference.  Personally I enjoy both, I find 1st person more suspensfull but ultimately i find 3rd person enabled to be more tactical and have better firefights since both parties have good battlefield intel.  Fights seem to last longer on 3rd person enabled servers and you must think more and use cover and tactical movement more effectively.

 

Anyway soz for the derailment just thought i'd share my 2c on this.

[Black_Dog]

 

There is a reason ArmA has 3rd person.  They would not have included it in the game if it was not essential.

 

 

Yes the reason was single player campaign and single player mods/modes, due to the AI being crack shots no matter what you try and do with them for accuracy, through buildings through grass through trees etc etc, you will be aware of all that if you have played BI games for a long time. :D

 

So yes it was essential, but only to the bot aspect of the game.

 

P.s you can still peak through gaps in fences and walls etc even in first person.

[Black_Dog]

Yes the reason was single player campaign and single player mods/modes, due to the AI being crack shots no matter what you try and do with them for accuracy, through buildings through grass through trees etc etc, you will be aware of all that if you have played BI games for a long time. :D

 

So yes it was essential, but only to the bot aspect of the game.

 

P.s you can still peak through gaps in fences and walls etc even in first person.

 

 

 

 

"i find 3rd person enabled to be more tactical and have better firefights"

 

^^ of course you do, because you can see what you would not normally see coming the other side of a hill, so yes more firefights are due to being MORE aware of whats near you even when you should not be.

[donelehon]

Allthough it is hard to argue with dslyecxi there are some points he is ignoring.

 

First of all, the way you move in real life is a lot different from the way you move in a game.  In real life if you stand next to a tall fence you can pull yourself up to look over the edge for instance.  You can also peek through gaps in the wall without exposing your body.  You can contort your body in to all kinds of weird poses to get situational awerness of an area without exposing yourself, you can't do that in the game.  That is why there is 3rd person in Arma.  Indeed it can be argued that 3rd person is key to having a realistic tactical awereness in ArmA.

 

Secondly some things are just not correctly configured for 1st person.  Take a speed boat as an expample.  As the boat accelerates the nose lifts, to counter this in real life the boat driver will either be standing or in a elevated position so that he can look over and down the nose while driving.  Not so in arma, it is in fact impossible to see where you are going driving a speed boat in 1st person in this game.

 

There is a reason ArmA has 3rd person.  They would not have included it in the game if it was not essential.

 

Either case it is perfectly acceptable for a person to prefer 1st person server, just like it is acceptable for a person to prefer 3rd person enabled.  It doesn't mean they are peekers or cheats or hardcore.  It is just preference.  Personally I enjoy both, I find 1st person more suspensfull but ultimately i find 3rd person enabled to be more tactical and have better firefights since both parties have good battlefield intel.  Fights seem to last longer on 3rd person enabled servers and you must think more and use cover and tactical movement more effectively.

 

Anyway soz for the derailment just thought i'd share my 2c on this.

 

Totally agree on this one. Yes, the 3rd person perspective has nothing to do with realism. And it can create a few situations where it seems to be unbalanced in a fight. And perhaps the 1st person is also more "immersive" as some stated out. But especially Epoch is not only focused on PVP fights, but on Basebuilding, Exploring, running or going by boat (for hours :) ), repairing stuff, trading.. and thats just more convenient when I can choose my perspective.

Well, in the end, a minority will always love the 1st person thing, but the majority will probably stick to 3rd. As there are servers for both types of players now, no need to argue anymore, everybody gets what he wants. Just dont like people who think they are superiour just because they prefer 1st person (or vice vercer), sorry thats kind of childish :) .

[Black_Dog]

Its never about superiority its about a fair fight under fair conditions instead of someone "might" be able to glance u in a window where that would not normally be the case.

Regarding building and boating and the such thats pretty simple - when you hit build mode or whatnot you go into 3rd person, when you exit build mode u return to 1st, There fixed for you. :D

[squirmyj]

I've been playing in ZN01 thinking it was 1st person only. This is not the case.. 3rd person seems to work for me... SO what is the main difference between vet and hardcore?

[GasT]

1st person was removed and they are hopefully going back to one server again and hopefully it will run as smooth as it did before when they only had one.

 

 

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