Fog Horn Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Is it possible that after installing the Steam Api Key , the tool can be wrong , ie , a player gets kicked upon logging into my server ( vac ban ) , swears he has no bans , doesn't even play steam games , no vac ban shows on his profile . ??? Any suggestions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbawol Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Can you try to do a lookup? http://www.vacbanned.com/ also what are your settings for the ban threshold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Horn Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Check shows Status NOT BANNED Country United States First seen as banned (CET) Never Last time checked (CET) 2014-12-04 22:08:53 Times checked 3 Settings were VACBanned = 1 VACMinimumNumberOfBans = 1 VACMaximumDaysSinceLastBan = 1000 Why would it ban someone that has never had a ban ? Must not be doing something correctly , WE want this installed but , punishing the innocent ? I don't know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Horn Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rogue Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I'm having the same problem. Although when I tried it I had mine set to VACBanned = 1VACMinimumNumberOfBans = 1VACMaximumDaysSinceLastBan = 1 Guess that could make a difference now that I think about it. But I'm glad to know I'm not the only one having the issue. lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Horn Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Ya , with all the discussion about it , I thought , what the hell , if your clean for a thousand days , you get another chance , but if it is banning those that never cheated , Ie , changed to " Not Banned " , well ... , some thought needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starscream1989 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 To even have this as a option is outrageous this is not Vavle anti cheat get that crap out of here . Tywin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 To even have this as a option is outrageous this is not Vavle anti cheat get that crap out of here . It's optional and i have it enabled, I was sick of all the cheating wankers on my A2 server, this allows me to ban known cheaters on A3 So many times players were banned for gamehack#38 because they used cheat engines, they claim they left it running, if someone cheats on one game then most likely they'll cheat on other games. I want legitimate playeys on my server, players who play the game properly, players with VAC bans have been caught cheating before and they'll cheat again or at least exploit glitches, I have better things to do with my time then monitor suspected cheats. Only cheaters with VAC bans are affected, yes there maybe bugs like the OP mentions but these will be sorted :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rogue Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I tested it again today and all my admins were getting banned. So there's definitely something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Horn Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Posted Today, 07:42 AM To even have this as a option is outrageous this is not Vavle anti cheat get that crap out of here . I say , cheaters should be punished .... Whether It's a valve game or not , we don't want you in our servers , assuming thats why you have a problem with it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_N3wf Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 To even have this as a option is outrageous this is not Vavle anti cheat get that crap out of here . This Vac Crap as you call, means you have a ban somewhere. Good Luck with that as more games an AC's start to do this. This should have been done years ago to wake people up and slow the cheater down. Punkbuster did the same, mainly through 3rd party options for EA games. Server runners option to enable or disable. If all AC's worked together in time we would be done with you people that are the problems. Back to the point of this thread is there a way to get a response on the issue for people with no bans as we had this with a guy in Foggies group that has no bans on record, and steam wont responde except a auto sender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rogue Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Back to the point of this thread is there a way to get a response on the issue for people with no bans as we had this with a guy in Foggies group that has no bans on record, and steam wont responde except a auto sender. Well you would like to hope that senior admins have already checked out the folks on their admin team and made sure they are clean. That being the case, if someone is on the admin list they should be exempt from getting automatically kicked or banned by the server. But as it is now the system does no checks to see if a player is on the server admin list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starscream1989 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 It's optional and i have it enabled, I was sick of all the cheating wankers on my A2 server, this allows me to ban known cheaters on A3 So many times players were banned for gamehack#38 because they used cheat engines, they claim they left it running, if someone cheats on one game then most likely they'll cheat on other games. I want legitimate playeys on my server, players who play the game properly, players with VAC bans have been caught cheating before and they'll cheat again or at least exploit glitches, I have better things to do with my time then monitor suspected cheats. Only cheaters with VAC bans are affected, yes there maybe bugs like the OP mentions but these will be sorted :) The Thing is mate , Just because they got caught hacking on a game not even flipping related to Arma 3 there not allowed to play on a game that maybe they have never cheated on or desired to cheat on. That is what Battle Eye is for if they cheat on Arma 3 they pay the price , Don't Let a Stupid Vale anti- cheat decide who can play on your server or not because Vavle-anticheat is broken as crap. Only reason i am even saying anything about this is because i have many freinds who was banned on csgo because they were stupid and young and never cheated again on any game and now they can't enjoy a game they paid $59.99 for because someone had the bright idea to Implement Vavle-anti cheat Scanns in a Battle eye Anti-cheat Engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Horn Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 The VAC system implementation in a server is Pro-Active , Battle Eye is Re-Active . As was once said , no use locking the barn door after the horse is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 The VAC system implementation in a server is Pro-Active , Battle Eye is Re-Active . As was once said , no use locking the barn door after the horse is gone Yeah but this stops that horse getting in my barn :p RC_Robio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Horn Posted December 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 :D I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsatrap Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Once a cheater always a cheater I like the vac feature :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 "The Thing is mate , Just because they got caught hacking on a game not even flipping related to Arma 3 there not allowed to play on a game that maybe they have never cheated on or desired to cheat on" I'm pretty sure that someone with the mentality that it is ok to cheat in game A but not B at some point will rage or boredom cheat in game B. VAC ban for the win. We need as much collaboration as possible between server hosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToejaM Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 We're running the VAC bans, once a cheater always a cheater, even if it was your brothers sisters pet hamster that did it. Kit security 101, look after your own shit if you have untrustworthy shites in your house. If I could link other anti cheats such as punkbuster, I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniflare Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 You do realise people learn from their mistakes? If you have pro active admins and know how to read logs then you shouldn't need this. Unless the ban was recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Horn Posted December 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 We're running the VAC bans, once a cheater always a cheater, even if it was your brothers sisters pet hamster that did it. Kit security 101, look after your own shit if you have untrustworthy shites in your house. If I could link other anti cheats such as punkbuster, I would. I want to be clear , I agree totally ,having BEC ,VAC , but if you refer to http://www.vacbanned.com/ , first item , they admit , they have an issue , these accounts are still banned and saying "it will get sorted " isn't helping . I admit a very tiny % are innocent , but , I hate punishing the innocent , this isn't about looking after your own shit , it's about Valve's reluctance to sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 You do realise people learn from their mistakes? If you have pro active admins and know how to read logs then you shouldn't need this. Unless the ban was recent. Show me proof they learn from their mistakes ? personally i think they don't change but try to find better ways to hide the cheats. I grew up in the 80's when games had cheats built in, entering dodgy codes and button combos allowed you to skip levels and shit, it made completing the game boring, you lose the sense of achievement, since then i play games fairly and fully, I enjoy them more this way :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniflare Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Show me proof they learn from their mistakes ? personally i think they don't change but try to find better ways to hide the cheats. I grew up in the 80's when games had cheats built in, entering dodgy codes and button combos allowed you to skip levels and shit, it made completing the game boring, you lose the sense of achievement, since then i play games fairly and fully, I enjoy them more this way :DProof is in your post. There are also false positives. VAC is by far not perfect. I have been banned by pb when I was 12 on bf2, never cheated since. Whether you believe me or not is not my problem. I don't have vac bans on my acc since it was before steam and was pb anyway. If aplayer is ging to cheat he will do it on any account vac banned or not but most likely they get a new account. I will only implement this if banned in last year or so. I think that is fair. Edit; Google mOe from csgo for a example if u really need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 VAC might not be perfect, neither is BE but that's for the players to sort with Steam or BE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rogue Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 When you guys registered for a Steam API key what did you use when it asked for a domain? Did you use your community website or the IP for your game server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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