Third person Exploiting ?

[gibonez]

I did a search and could not find this subject being discussed so I will make a new topic.

 

Are there any plans to include such a mod into the basic features of epoch ?

 

 

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This mod seems to be a simple script that prevents people from exploiting 3pp to cheat and see people over cover and around corners.

 

It is the perfect compromise between hardcore servers and regular servers as it does not alienate anyone and both allows people to have greater character self awareness without falling victim to a tactic that they can do nothing about.

[s3crtAZOnt]

THe problem is the delay between when you actually see the guy and when he appears. It might happen so that you could only see like part of his body while the guy was running behind a conrner but because of delay you wont see him go there. Nice idea but needs tweaking

[gibonez]

THe problem is the delay between when you actually see the guy and when he appears. It might happen so that you could only see like part of his body while the guy was running behind a conrner but because of delay you wont see him go there. Nice idea but needs tweaking

 

Yea with some tweaking and player feed back this could fix in my opinion the biggest problem with third person view within a perma death game.

[Sequisha]

There are no plans to use this.  Although I understand the reasoning behind it, I feel it's poorly implemented.

The healthiest alternative for those who feel strongly about the subject is a forced first person perspective.  The largest problem with first person only servers in Arma is maintaining a consistent population(this is not always the case).

[gibonez]

There are no plans to use this.  Although I understand the reasoning behind it, I feel it's poorly implemented.

The healthiest alternative for those who feel strongly about the subject is a forced first person perspective.  The largest problem with first person only servers in Arma is maintaining a consistent population(this is not always the case).

 

What about changing the cameras position while in third person view so it is much hard to effectively exploit the camera ?

 

Perhaps much closer to the rear of the player instead of floating above and back of the player.

 

It seems like a tricky subject to tackle alot of people see it as a problem and alot of people see it as a problem they like.

[Sequisha]

What about changing the cameras position while in third person view so it is much hard to effectively exploit the camera ?

 

Perhaps much closer to the rear of the player instead of floating above and back of the player.

 

It seems like a tricky subject to tackle alot of people see it as a problem and alot of people see it as a problem they like.

You're right about there not being an easy solution.  I imagine even if someone went to the extent of reworking the entirety of how the player's camera is handled and controlled; there would be many negative side effects that would ruin the experience much more.

There is nothing new about this, the Arma community has been trying to find a sound solution for this problem...and it always comes back to first person servers. 

As we've seen before countless times, a band-aid on an infected wound may eventually require surgery. You end up compounding problems and sacrificing core game elements to feed a minor complaint.

A good example of this is Safe zones.

ps. A fixed camera behind the player is one of the more attractive solutions, but will still be exploited.

[gibonez]

ps. A fixed camera behind the player is one of the more attractive solutions, but will still be exploited.

 

Sadly it would still be .

 

Hopefully one day there is a good solution to this problem.

 

H1z1 apparently has taken to task to adress this problem from day 1 so I am a little curious as to how they "fix" it.

[Guest]

there is a script somewhere out there which deactivates 3rd person view in crouching or prone position... thats a good start actually

[gibonez]

there is a script somewhere out there which deactivates 3rd person view in crouching or prone position... thats a good start actually

 

That is pretty brilliant and would solve 99 percent of the problems .