Skafsgaard Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I agree, I would like to see a thread from Devs and Admins that they take a stand against exploits, duping and put out some clear rules regarding building. Fairplay players don´t even think about building in certain way´s because you know it´s not right and don´t expect bases to be impossible to break into while there are those that want their base to be impossible to break into and pulls the "everybody does it" have no limits on what they are doing right now. Look at the base in the solartower, they have blocked of the ladders so how are you going to break in there when you can´t place explosives or hatchet on a ladder. Blow up the building and the Jammer plus their inventory will be floating in the air. They have magic foundation that floats in the air that prevents heli´s to land on top. This is what I think is Epoch´s biggest problem right now, a really low moral in the playerbase and I think they need to react now. What you are, right now, arguing against is not exploiting nor glitching but meta-gaming. I can recommend Altis Life. You'll love it! They don't allow metagaming either. Proper kid's fest that is, and I really hope that's not where this is headed. If you can find a way to secure your base in a way that you can't access it without glitching, then fucking gratz! Well fucking played, you deserve a medal. Those towers? If you're unable to put someone on that roof, then you should probably go practice in Editor for a bit. ;) Either way, what they did is to make a design which is - to some extent - flawless. In other words, they've done really well planning out their base, and you're then pissed that you can't find a way to get in there and steal their stuff.... boofuckinghoo kid. What are you gonna do when u meet a lockbox or maybe a future safe? Cry for those to be removed? Jesus christ, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Altis life is not my type of game. So I'm against meta gaming because i think floating foundations is a wrong way to use them? They had foundation floating in the air above the roof. Good luck landing a chopper then the rotors would def have been busted. You should compare some of this to glitching a Tipi into a mountain rather then a lockbox. Do I think there should be ways to take down and raid bases yes, with explosives and chainsaws. Making it impossible to get into Bases legit ways will remove some gameplay wouldn't you say? Edit: Heard that they have put some more work into the tower so don't know how it looks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boaby Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 What you are, right now, arguing against is not exploiting nor glitching but meta-gaming. I can recommend Altis Life. You'll love it! They don't allow metagaming either. Proper kid's fest that is, and I really hope that's not where this is headed. If you can find a way to secure your base in a way that you can't access it without glitching, then fucking gratz! Well fucking played, you deserve a medal. Those towers? If you're unable to put someone on that roof, then you should probably go practice in Editor for a bit. ;) Either way, what they did is to make a design which is - to some extent - flawless. In other words, they've done really well planning out their base, and you're then pissed that you can't find a way to get in there and steal their stuff.... boofuckinghoo kid. What are you gonna do when u meet a lockbox or maybe a future safe? Cry for those to be removed? Jesus christ, dude. This is the when epoch will lose the whole point of the mod , when everyone has bases that cant even be accessed legitimately the mod loses its essence and becomes wasteland with safe storage. Epoch for me is about base building and finding weaknesses in others bases and attacking , once everyone realises these faults in the mechanics then there will be no base that wont defy the laws of physics and no matter how many hours youve spent in editor will get you into them. you applaud and congratulate people for finding obvious flaws in the system yet fail to understand the implications of such actions , epoch will become pointless and boring with bases that have no fear of being broken into. Only through solid defence should bases be impervious , not through bad game mechanics.. GasT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Things that make these mods last to me and many other are. Losing your gear after someone raided you so you have to restock and rebuild base or storage. Raiding someone finding lovely loot sometimes, evens out the hit a raid on you can have. If you get to keep all your precious gear and not have your base destroyed how long will it stay fun. Skafsgaard I would say that it´s you that maybe fit in the Life profile as a Police where you never lose your gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capwned Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Epoch became rly famous because of servers with indestructible bases. There was close to no one using the system without this. Every server with indestructible bases was full and a server without it was empty. Even in the latest famous mod "overpoch" are only one or two working bases on a full server if the bases are not indestructible. With 80-90 people on the server you have to rebuild your base every 5-8h. I want to see a big base with open crates or intresting cars that can withstand on a full server longer than 1 day without 24h guards. Epoch is famous for basebuilding, horting or even !safes! and not for a "day z tent feeling". Btw you can still raid a base with indestructible walls and only safes inside but it will take you a way more skill and planning. Splin and Skafsgaard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPSTrollywood Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Finding teepees is easy... dont hide gear in teepees unless you have no other choice. get a lockbox, or build a base and then put the teepee in the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skafsgaard Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Things that make these mods last to me and many other are. Losing your gear after someone raided you so you have to restock and rebuild base or storage. Raiding someone finding lovely loot sometimes, evens out the hit a raid on you can have. If you get to keep all your precious gear and not have your base destroyed how long will it stay fun. Skafsgaard I would say that it´s you that maybe fit in the Life profile as a Police where you never lose your gear. Matter of fact is, you're crying because you can't access the loot in this tower-base both in this thread about 'heli radar', and in the 'show me your base'-thread. They beat you fair and square within the gamemechanics, and build something that YOU can't get in to and raid by placing just a satchel. You actually need a bit of skill on this one. Congratulate them and stop bitching please. Don't go on the forum whining to get them banned for 'glitching', and then when that's denied, go and call the whole playerbase 'rotten' and call for the whole approach of the mod to be changed. It's pathetic; grow the fuck up. There's plenty of ways for you to get in that base anyways, just like there was in A2 Epoch - even with indestructable bases on. It was just strictly for the dedicated and skilled players with patience - rather than for every bellend with a satchel charge. Lockboxes just goes to prove, that the devs are already taking an approach to storage where your storage is 100% safe - just like they did in A2 Epoch. If you don't like this casual approach, then there's always Breaking Point which provides exactly the kind of playstyle that you're talking of - perma death and constant loss of all your gear. The exact difference to this mod, making this a more forgiving and casual mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Matter of fact is, you're crying because you can't access the loot in this tower-base both in this thread about 'heli radar', and in the 'show me your base'-thread. They beat you fair and square within the gamemechanics, and build something that YOU can't get in to and raid by placing just a satchel. You actually need a bit of skill on this one. Congratulate them and stop bitching please. Don't go on the forum whining to get them banned for 'glitching', and then when that's denied, go and call the whole playerbase 'rotten' and call for the whole approach of the mod to be changed. It's pathetic; grow the fuck up. There's plenty of ways for you to get in that base anyways, just like there was in A2 Epoch - even with indestructable bases on. It was just strictly for the dedicated and skilled players with patience - rather than for every bellend with a satchel charge. Lockboxes just goes to prove, that the devs are already taking an approach to storage where your storage is 100% safe - just like they did in A2 Epoch. If you don't like this casual approach, then there's always Breaking Point which provides exactly the kind of playstyle that you're talking of - perma death and constant loss of all your gear. The exact difference to this mod, making this a more forgiving and casual mod. You should learn the difference on crying and having a opinion, there base was just a good example that they had provided pictures with and the reason I bring it up multible times is to get a answer but now I know that there are no rules. Grow the fuck up and learn to let others have opinions rather then the childish troll shit your doing now. There might be way´s now have not looked but with the floor blocking a ladder and foundation blocking heli drops. There was not. I was hoping for a middle thing in Epoch but it´s a bit Softcore and Breaking Point is a bit to Hardcore. For now ill stick with Epoch and see how it develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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