evilhomer2 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Please for the love of all humanity ditch the current database system and return to MYSQL. MySQL is a damn sight easier to use than this stupid redis version. Deleting Vehicles redis- you have to delete each 1 individually mysql- select all click delete. Traders- redis-cant even find them on the database unless i purposely go to that trader and add something. also adding stuff to it is a nightmare. mysql- go to traders folder make your changes. So please do the community a favour and make this change back to sensible mysql. js2k6, knights†emplar, Brian Soanes and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalfoundry Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_BWG Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 There are been multiple threads asking the dev this. I dont think it will ever happen officially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rogue Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 "Officially" being the key word there. I'd say after Epoch hits 1.0 someone will come out with a custom DLL or addon DLLs that talks to SQL along with the necessary custom server files. It might even happen before 1.0. But either way, once it's released I'd say many servers will be making the transition. second_coming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Solem Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Use the search function. Statistically the community is split in half. NuFaN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiRe Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 vote for mysql Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
second_coming Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 +1 for MySQL, the administration of redis is painful. js2k6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPIB0X Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I dont know enough about either of the two but from what I can tell mySQL makes more sense? What are the benefits of redis? Do the dev's atleast justify their reasoning for using redis over mySQL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I dont know enough about either of the two but from what I can tell mySQL makes more sense? What are the benefits of redis? Do the dev's atleast justify their reasoning for using redis over mySQL? All of these questions can be answered with the forum's search function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC_Robio Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Please for the love of all humanity ditch the current database system and return to MYSQL. MySQL is a damn sight easier to use than this stupid redis version. Deleting Vehicles redis- you have to delete each 1 individually mysql- select all click delete. Traders- redis-cant even find them on the database unless i purposely go to that trader and add something. also adding stuff to it is a nightmare. mysql- go to traders folder make your changes. So please do the community a favour and make this change back to sensible mysql. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhomer2 Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 its a fix but still not as good a fix as mysql where you add the script set it to schedule at server restart and it does it automatically for you and the first link is to do with hc clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHE24 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Sign :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmooney Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 try to use https://github.com/caoxinyu/RedisClient/tree/master/release(32bit version works well) java client js2k6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuFaN Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I like the redis DB. It is not easy to alter, i admit that, but that is good. Before i was busy for hours, player a wanted this altered, player b that. Players wanted to be brought back to life, Humanity was gone, etc, etc... Now u die, u respawn if u cant be revived. Like how it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimBlock Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Clearly this is the dev teams own fault..... They should have created a sub-forum under the A3 Epoch forum called "Please change back to MySQL" and then moved all the many threads asking for this in there :) . At least that way, anyone wanting to post another one will see the many that have gone and been ignored before :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuFaN Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Clearly this is the dev teams own fault..... They should have created a sub-forum under the A3 Epoch forum called "Please change back to MySQL" and then moved all the many threads asking for this in there :) . At least that way, anyone wanting to post another one will see the many that have gone and been ignored before :D . Amen to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmooney Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 redis is a "industrial standart" rt db with very good performance (try use sql with over 100+ tables on non server pc) and i see only one problem : u dont have nabocat for it ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knights†emplar Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 redis is a "industrial standart" rt db with very good performance (try use sql with over 100+ tables on non server pc) and i see only one problem : u dont have nabocat for it ) is this a troll? be honest? Redis can't handle the same large amount of data SQL can. Redis is Memory only; now if you understand that alone you should know right away what disadvantages you have...... Keys management requires huge effort. There is no easy way to run something like select * from redis where key =232434 , and the scan command introduced in previous patches is pathetic ! no deny it is fast and that's why the devs choose it for epoch! but it's just pain the back side to query quickly and use existing distribution scripts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
second_coming Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 redis is a "industrial standart" rt db with very good performance (try use sql with over 100+ tables on non server pc) and i see only one problem : u dont have nabocat for it )Industry standard for what exactly?Redis might well be it easier to install and backup (and possibly develop), but PostgreSQL or MySQL would be a far better option for end users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhar Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Redis DB is the Devil. I really hate this DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbabar Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I want Epoch mod on ACCESS 95 !!! Use Mysql for this game is useless ... nosql is better, with mysql and time, the database is so horrible ... request as so long, nosql is better and faster ... and for developper is more easy for change anything in database (no relation, ...) But i prefer mongodb to Redis ... (troll) REDIS IS GOOD FOR EPOCH MOD, THANKS DEV ! edit : and sorry for my bad english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
second_coming Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I want Epoch mod on ACCESS 95 !!! Use Mysql for this game is useless ... nosql is better, with mysql and time, the database is so horrible ... request as so long, nosql is better and faster ... and for developper is more easy for change anything in database (no relation, ...)But i prefer mongodb to Redis ... (troll) REDIS IS GOOD FOR EPOCH MOD, THANKS DEV ! edit : and sorry for my bad englishSQL performance is only terrible if you are running it on shitty hardware and/or if the database and queries aren't optimised properly. knights†emplar and js2k6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maca134 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I have made and setup 100s of websites. I have sites that get millions of hits a month. These sites run PHP and use MySQL for storage of information. Some also use redis for storing cached data that normally has a TTL of a few minutes at most. I can tell you from experience, MySQL AND Redis can both deal with ALOT of data IO, even concurrently. And yes Redis is faster than mysql at pure data IO but were it falls down is trying to manipulate the data once its in there. The fact that Redis has no scheme/structure so having no data validation, makes it fast. In my opinion this is terrible for a game server like ARMA, were structure is everything, one var datatype miss match and the whole server can go to shit. Redis IS NOT FASTER than MySQL when you consider the day to day management of an ARMA server, were hackers can and do spawn crap in which is near enough impossible to find in Redis, without an application to load to the data set into memory and search it. (This is were MySQL is faster). The reason the dev's are using Redis I suspect is because it is easy to change the "database* schema" on the fly and you don't need much additional knowledge to interact with Redis, MySQL is more involved. * Redis IS NOT a database! Please don't flame me, I really do have a lot of experience with this crap :P SpiRe, elbabar, RimBlock and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Solem Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Somehow this debate seems more and more like a debate about maybe building the Eiffel tower after construction is about 1/3rd done in construction steel rather than puddling iron. It's already built there, everything beyond that point is mere trivia at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maca134 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Somehow this debate seems more and more like a debate about maybe building the Eiffel tower after construction is about 1/3rd done in construction steel rather than puddling iron. It's already built there, everything beyond that point is mere trivia at best. Very good point made there ;) So once some software is written and does the job, it shouldn't be improved upon then by that logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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