reaperz73 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I put this as a response in another thread but decided i would start a thread with it as well. I really see nothing wrong with vanilla , most changes I see people make are to make it easier for the players, which to me ruins the game, it is supposed to be a survival mod and what is the first thing people do , they turn off rotorlib, put banks in the trader cities, put drop boxes marked on the map with full bases inside, to make it easier for the players . To me if you want an easy game and just shoot stuff and not have fun with role play and getting immersed into what I see in vanilla epoch( a fine open world survival mod) then they should just go play COD or GO. Why ruin the game and make it easier. I say make it harder. I myself plan on staying vanilla on my server, I may add some missions but those will be difficult and prizes gained by them will be earned. I am eager to see the changes the devs will be making. I want to see if they can make it something you can fully immerse your self into and feel like you are trying to survive in post apocalypse conditions and see if you can stay alive and rule the Island of Altis or whatever map they do finally end up with. Suppe, Shadow Moses and Mercules 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Man Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 100% behind you and the devs, some of these owners are making them into either a CS server or a pussy server where everything is handed to the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suppe Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 1+ like this :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Then play on our Official server :) Extra vehicles have been added - Altis is far too big to walk, food is rare so stamina is always low, extra vehicles are not game breaking Maintenance time is 14 days - Bases are hard to build, 14 days seems sensible for casual players We also have the last 45 minutes dark, things that go bump in the night come out then :d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDeadThanZed Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I'm dedicated to not bastardizing my server. I'll be keeping my server as vanilla as is reasonable. No towing, third party missions, free stuff, etc. Vehicles are limited to around 100, so covet them if you can get your hands on them. The base maintenance was increased from 1 week to 2 and to make things awesome, we have a 4 hour cycle of day/night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperz73 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Then play on our Official server :) Extra vehicles have been added - Altis is far too big to walk, food is rare so stamina is always low, extra vehicles are not game breaking Maintenance time is 14 days - Bases are hard to build, 14 days seems sensible for casual players We also have the last 45 minutes dark, things that go bump in the night come out then :D I have but I have my own server and community we are at about 3 hour day and 1 hour night, a few extra vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackalopeHunter Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 As a server owner and admin for some time I can tell you, its not what we want as a game that our servers end up. Its what makes them popular, this brings in members for our communities and donations to help keep servers running. I prefer the survival aspect of the game, yet most players like God mode in traders, base god mode and stuff like that. We know what will draw them in, so that is what we are asking for. Sure, vanilla is great, but if all the servers were vanilla why would you not just join the first one. Server owners want ways to make their server draw in players and keep them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperz73 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 As a server owner and admin for some time I can tell you, its not what we want as a game that our servers end up. Its what makes them popular, this brings in members for our communities and donations to help keep servers running. I prefer the survival aspect of the game, yet most players like God mode in traders, base god mode and stuff like that. We know what will draw them in, so that is what we are asking for. Sure, vanilla is great, but if all the servers were vanilla why would you not just join the first one. Server owners want ways to make their server draw in players and keep them. I prefer to build my player base buy building bonds with them, we have a great group of people . We help them not just give them stuff we run with them help them loot we join groups and help them take on others. Last time I looked there was no god mode at walmart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flosstradamus Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I on the other hand will be enjoying modding the shit out of my server by 1.0. I was popular on Arma 2 and i'll be back at it again on Arma 3. Epoch on arma 2 used to have official servers and well look where that went when they allowed modding. It was a barren wasteland. Andy.txt, MGT and MPG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnucc1 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I completely disagree with you on this one, Why should servers be forced to play it how YOU want. If they enjoy having more cars, and easy bases, how does this hurt you? You aren't forced to play on these sort of servers. Yes its not what the dev's envisioned, but still. they run official vanilla servers for those who want to play a vanilla experience. Why bitch and complain about servers innovating to get a higher player-base, its working for them, congratulations. you are whining over nothing. "then they should just go play COD or GO." They choose to play this mod the way they want. Stop being a kid and complaining about stuff that has nothing to do with you and frankly doesn't effect you. Steven1230 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperz73 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I completely disagree with you on this one, Why should servers be forced to play it how YOU want. If they enjoy having more cars, and easy bases, how does this hurt you? You aren't forced to play on these sort of servers. Yes its not what the dev's envisioned, but still. they run official vanilla servers for those who want to play a vanilla experience. Why bitch and complain about servers innovating to get a higher player-base, its working for them, congratulations. you are whining over nothing. "then they should just go play COD or GO." They choose to play this mod the way they want. Stop being a kid and complaining about stuff that has nothing to do with you and frankly doesn't effect you. LOL dude I am not a dev, I said how I run my server , did you not read ... DUH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnucc1 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 LOL dude I am not a dev, I said how I run my server , did you not read ... DUH Well the fact i never called you a dev, (you didnt read) what i did say was that the dev's envisioned this mod as a hardcore survival. Not you. My exact exert: "Yes its not what the dev's envisioned" I never called you a dev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralAK Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I completely disagree with you on this one, Why should servers be forced to play it how YOU want. If they enjoy having more cars, and easy bases, how does this hurt you? You aren't forced to play on these sort of servers. Yes its not what the dev's envisioned, but still. they run official vanilla servers for those who want to play a vanilla experience. Why bitch and complain about servers innovating to get a higher player-base, its working for them, congratulations. you are whining over nothing. "then they should just go play COD or GO." They choose to play this mod the way they want. Stop being a kid and complaining about stuff that has nothing to do with you and frankly doesn't effect you. This. Most servers have SLIGHT tweaks. Mine for example has the OLD flight model the mod was started with and a little increased loot due to me getting a lot of new to epoch players. if there's hundreds of you Vanilla only players where the hell are ya. I been looking for you all for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnucc1 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 This. Most servers have SLIGHT tweaks. Mine for example has the OLD flight model the mod was started with and a little increased loot due to me getting a lot of new to epoch players. if there's hundreds of you Vanilla only players where the hell are ya. I been looking for you all for a week. People like to bitch over stuff that they don't need to. The community is just opening up variation for different types of players. Some dont have much time and want to hop in, make a fast base and get into some shooting, some like spending 6-7 hours on a server loot hoarding. JackalopeHunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperz73 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 People like to bitch over stuff that they don't need to. The community is just opening up variation for different types of players. Some dont have much time and want to hop in, make a fast base and get into some shooting, some like spending 6-7 hours on a server loot hoarding. The thing I am complaining about is over modding, and setting up pay to play. If you have to pay to play most likely you just suck at the game lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralAK Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 People like to bitch over stuff that they don't need to. The community is just opening up variation for different types of players. Some dont have much time and want to hop in, make a fast base and get into some shooting, some like spending 6-7 hours on a server loot hoarding. Yep I hoarded for 16 play hours before i could start my base off. its nice for them to have a little help. especially with all the new people getting involved. My server will stay vanilla for as long as the players want it. I have about 8 regular players at the moment and its damn hard to fill it up. I am paying to keep the server up I will do what it takes to make sure the regulars have fun. that's what communities are xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperz73 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Yep I hoarded for 16 play hours before i could start my base off. its nice for them to have a little help. especially with all the new people getting involved. My server will stay vanilla for as long as the players want it. I have about 8 regular players at the moment and its damn hard to fill it up. I am paying to keep the server up I will do what it takes to make sure the regulars have fun. that's what communities are xD We do help out players we run around with them and help them get looted up , but nah we are not gonna just hand it to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine6fd Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 From what i learned back in dayz era. 70% of the people who played on my non vanilla server liked it because: 1. They didn't have hours to dedicate to playing the game the way it was designed originally. (I.E. spending days before finding a broken vehicle and hours finding supplies to fix it). Gamers have lives to. 2. They loved the idea of the game and wanted to experience it in a faster pace. I think to argue with how people have different opinions on how to run/enjoy a server is ridiculous. We should embrace every server being different and enjoy those differences. One day i might feel like spending more time playing the game and join a "vanilla server". Another day i want to drive my car into a (shark) tornado for the lawls... Give people the creative freedom to do what they want. We don't all have to be the same. <3 Splin and JackalopeHunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackalopeHunter Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 People like to bitch over stuff that they don't need to. The community is just opening up variation for different types of players. Some dont have much time and want to hop in, make a fast base and get into some shooting, some like spending 6-7 hours on a server loot hoarding. Exactly what I was tying to say. If ever server out there was "Vanilla" then there would be no draw to one or the other. Our server is running the basic flight and a few extra vehicles, other than that it is vanilla, but once we hit 1.0 its on. By having servers with "different stuff" we make it so players can find what fits their game play. We normally run more than one server with a variety of things from Vanilla up. Don't hate just because you don't like it. Just don't play on it. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnucc1 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Exactly what I was tying to say. If ever server out there was "Vanilla" then there would be no draw to one or the other. Our server is running the basic flight and a few extra vehicles, other than that it is vanilla, but once we hit 1.0 its on. By having servers with "different stuff" we make it so players can find what fits their game play. We normally run more than one server with a variety of things from Vanilla up. Don't hate just because you don't like it. Just don't play on it. Simple. Yep, i mean i've sat down this entire week in the arma 3 editor, browsing forums, speaking to dev's in streams, finding out what we can and can't do. I've been sitting here all week working out custom features, how to add custom buildings, enhancing the gameplay and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flosstradamus Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 The thing I am complaining about is over modding, and setting up pay to play. If you have to pay to play most likely you just suck at the game lol No most people have pay to play to pay for the ridiculous server costs. A decent system will run you about 200 a month and more if you happen to host a server in Europe where Euro's come into play. It isn't cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPG Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I on the other hand will be enjoying modding the shit out of my server by 1.0. I was popular on Arma 2 and i'll be back at it again on Arma 3. Epoch on arma 2 used to have official servers and well look where that went when they allowed modding. It was a barren wasteland. Dude me and you are ment to be together if you ever feel like chatting hit me up on ts you funny as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine6fd Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 This is how these types of posts make me feel. No offence OP :) I get that you feel it's disrespectful to trample on the DEVs hard work by customizing a server but in reality we just want to enjoy the game in 101 different ways. JackalopeHunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperz73 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 No most people have pay to play to pay for the ridiculous server costs. A decent system will run you about 200 a month and more if you happen to host a server in Europe where Euro's come into play. It isn't cheap. You can buy a server for around 300. Thats what I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnucc1 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Yep, im still against the whole "you cant donate for perks" because in the EU a arma 3 server ( a decent one) can run £50+ i mean we pay about that for our dedi-box and had to setup all the OS, all the files and such manually and it runs fine, but most people don't have the technical know how to do alot of this. Meaning they go and buy a server on a virtual machine in a data-centre which is running a VM and have a crappy performing server. but alas, rules be rules. Edit: We run two arma 3 servers on this box now and never reach anywhere near what we pay for. But VM servers run like crap in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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