spinphd Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I was sad to notice that on epochmod.com's #2 server today that my character no longer automatically knows his position. I hope this is just an oversight! You know, almost 25 years ago in the middle of nothingness Saudia Arabia, my unit's Bradley Fighting Vehicle got a small green box with only one calculator like LED display row to mount on the top of the track. It let us navigate in a virtually featureless world. 15 years ago I bought my first moving map, hand-held GPS receiver, it was monochrome. Today, color moving map GPS's are being replaced by Smartphone's in everyone's hands! And in 2035, or whatever year it is, we have to use compass and orienteering skills? Really? Does it have to be this gay? For the last 25 years I've working in one capacity or another as a software engineer. There's a word in software we all need to learn, it's ABSTRACTION. Software is always, in one way or another, an abstraction of the problem domain, of the real world, as it were. Fighting against a system that DOES NOT PROVIDE THE NECESSARY TOOLS to actually orient and navigate yourself is idiotic and we should at least assume, as an abstraction, that our characters ALWAYS know where they are. To do otherwise actually takes away from the game, takes away from the intelligence of game and devolves it into something much less. D'oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGT Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 .................it's a game Flosstradamus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeman Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 In 2035.. after the demise of the majority of humankind. All those technologies rely on working satellites, enough to triangulate your position accurately. Just saying Major Khunt, MGT, Skafsgaard and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Solem Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 gUizein A mod with exploding aLiens...the Part i ThInk is WaY ofF is dE gEE PEE eSS,beCuZ I waS in a BrAdlEY IRL once! Skafsgaard, RC_Robio and Flosstradamus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPGElliot Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Remember, a zombie apocalypse happened, lots od things got destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobroglaz Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 In 2035.. after the demise of the majority of humankind. All those technologies rely on working satellites, enough to triangulate your position accurately. Just saying But you have a GPS.....Also I've seen streamers open their map and they have a pos mark on their map....must be an add on or something, and I do believe they were streaming on official servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_Ross Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 What he said...if your GPS is funtioning then I would imagine that it's not that large of a stretch to show your pos on the map...if you have a GPS that is. Also internal nav systems rely on GPS to function Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Because clicking the circle in the top right of your map to find your general area is so fucking hard.... Maybe insulting our team while asking for a feature isn't the best way to go about it..... Flosstradamus, TuBz, Reefers and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Collins Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 They have GPS in this game?? You can see yourself then with it. Its not that hard to find yourself on the map and imo its alot more fun to play like this. If you use your map ofcourse you wont see yourself that would make no sense at all. But if you have an gps you can just press right CTR-M then you can see yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 It´s a troll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollTide Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 If you have a GPS you should see your location on the map...maybe not people in your group, but you should see your location. What is the point of the GPS...just to see a tiny view in your HUD? All GPSs give you the ability to zoom in and OUT to see your location. Even on Smart Phones. If you take away the map location then you should take away the ability to set a way point on a map as well. How can anyone in a zombie apocalypse set a theoretical point on a map and know the exact distance to that point? Heck, just take the map out of the game. One last comment. I haven't yet found a helicopter yet, but I was wondering if the radar on them has been disabled. Thomas_Ross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Sniper Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Okay, While I like having the marker of my position on the map, it is not needed. If you have a GPS it's not hard to find your location, Just Hold down your Right "Alt" + "M" and The GPS Overlay will display. Or Open Map like Axles said to and Use The Circle button top right corner, This will put the map in your close proximity and then Here is The Easy Tip. Hold Left "Shift" Key Down and CLICK on The Map And Then Close Map and Look For Temp Marker that Will Say So Many Meters or Kilometers. Not That Hard. and I don't feel the dev's need to put the GPS Marker location to player in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Čeh Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Wow, so much rage... reminds me of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zuhk2j4vCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skafsgaard Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Obvious troll is obvious.. No one is that stupid. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Man Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Alt+M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonya Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I was sad to notice that on epochmod.com's #2 server today that my character no longer automatically knows his position. I hope this is just an oversight! You know, almost 25 years ago in the middle of nothingness Saudia Arabia, my unit's Bradley Fighting Vehicle got a small green box with only one calculator like LED display row to mount on the top of the track. It let us navigate in a virtually featureless world. 15 years ago I bought my first moving map, hand-held GPS receiver, it was monochrome. Today, color moving map GPS's are being replaced by Smartphone's in everyone's hands! And in 2035, or whatever year it is, we have to use compass and orienteering skills? Really? Does it have to be this gay? For the last 25 years I've working in one capacity or another as a software engineer. There's a word in software we all need to learn, it's ABSTRACTION. Software is always, in one way or another, an abstraction of the problem domain, of the real world, as it were. Fighting against a system that DOES NOT PROVIDE THE NECESSARY TOOLS to actually orient and navigate yourself is idiotic and we should at least assume, as an abstraction, that our characters ALWAYS know where they are. To do otherwise actually takes away from the game, takes away from the intelligence of game and devolves it into something much less. D'oh! Now tell us what GPS "sad time" was. I remember that as well. I also remember our 1SG could never figure out how his plugger worked so we would always have to tell him where he was. I don't get this, you can easily find a GPS in the game that will show you your position 24/7 once it's equipped. It tells you your 6-digit grid which you can then easily see on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reen624 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well i dont like gettin your position as easy as it is now in "normal" mode. In this case i dont care about realism what could be in 2035 or not. I dont like the idea of gettin DayZ casual style. My experiences showed me that the harder it gets the more it gets fun. Everytime i find a city by just knowing my spawnpoint and havin a map without any other tools im really happy. And guess what after several hours of gaming im pretty good in finding everything without compass /gps/ markers. Thats the point where u get very good and u get a huge advantage. Its called skill. Im new to Arma3 and i dont have this orienting-skill yet. But im workin on it. And yes it needs time. If i want speedy action and no intense fights i play another game. But i love the thrill in DayZ. Thats why i dont play any other games anymore. Other games just doesnt thrill me at all anymore. Thats why i like it hardcore. Thats why i dont like markers. Thats why i like food and drink to be rare. Of course this is only my opinion. What do you think? Čeh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackalopeHunter Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I am sure this is a setting. One that the server admin will be able to turn on or off via a difficulty setting. For those players who want a harder server, they can just choose it. Right now some servers show your location, some don't so it must be a simple setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 I am sure this is a setting. One that the server admin will be able to turn on or off via a difficulty setting. For those players who want a harder server, they can just choose it. Right now some servers show your location, some don't so it must be a simple setting. I believe it is a simple setting, but switching that setting also switches several others. If you enable seeing youself on the map, mine markers appear, if you look at another player/vehicle they appear, name tags are turned on, all of which make the game unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackalopeHunter Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Yeah, I found 1 server running those settings and don't play on it. Not much fun when you can see the mines and all on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynewr Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 we have to use compass and orienteering skills? Really? Does it have to be this gay? In ANY Armed Force across the world the use of a compass and map isn't Gay, its called skill. Have you forgotten this? There's nothing that pisses me off more then someone that cant find there position because their battery's are flat. The Navigation within the game is fine. Silent_Sniper and Čeh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc302 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 TL DR: All I got from skimming this was: I can't navigate, I suck at playing warfare sims: I need to go outside with a compass and map in real life and learn how to do shit properly: cry, whinge, curl up in ball and sob because it's too hard to navigate. I removed the ability to place waypoints on my ARMA 2 Epoch server and OMG did people cry about that. Seems nobody learns how to use a map anymore. Ballz and Čeh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reen624 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 TL DR: All I got from skimming this was: I can't navigate, I suck at playing warfare sims: I need to go outside with a compass and map in real life and learn how to do shit properly: cry, whinge, curl up in ball and sob because it's too hard to navigate. I removed the ability to place waypoints on my ARMA 2 Epoch server and OMG did people cry about that. Seems nobody learns how to use a map anymore. Thats what i said! I think we play mostly against 12 years old, which dont know how to read a map. What N W S E stands for... jay8454 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay8454 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Thats what i said! I think we play mostly against 12 years old, which dont know how to read a map. What N W S E stands for... Well, I was taught NEWS North East West South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reen624 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Well, I was taught NEWS North East West South. N(iemals)O(hne)S(eife)W(aschen) Never wash without soap translated to english. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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