Rockysteel Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 As it stands right now, hunters are op, if they can be shot up with 7.62s and 12.7mms and keep driving and running people over there is a issue. The hunter needs removed or we need rpgs. Need some sort of balance in this department. The same was going down in the breaking point mod, armor cars just running people over. axeman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boppeler Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 If you got 7,62mm and 12,7mm and can't disable a Hunter you're doing something wrong it might take a bit but its doable to disable a hunter by shooting its tire GasT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 You are def. doing some thing wrong if you are unable to disable it.. Iv´e been in one where they made Me stop with a 5.56 riffle and a 6.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Moses Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Aim for the tires is the fix. If that doesn't work aim harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockysteel Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 well then we can close this fourm ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njoi Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I've shot the tire of a hunter in epoch 5 times with a Lynx and it did nothing. Upon further testing I loaded editor and was able to take out the tire with 7 shots from a 9mm handgun... Is there something epoch specific that are making hunters more durable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 No it happened a few arma updates back :) Try a five-seven hand gun .. 1 shot kill through the glass ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr0dukt Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Lol I actually propose adding in another armored amphibious vehicle to game. Not take the only current one we have out. Doesn't need to be the vodnik like BP uses, but the unarmed version of the Marid would be cool. Will likely come in handy more in other maps. Altis is mostly just one mass of land, so it wouldn't benefit much there. Instill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aposnow Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 any light armour which is unarmed is fine for me just make it tracked so its a bit slower turning so you cant just rampage roadkill people with it think strider and ifrit should be in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 The video above is from Epoch and happened during Saturday and got a wheel blown out yesterday by a handgun. In wasteland I have shot people thru the windscreen of the Vodnik with a .45 handgun. Breaking Points a different beast 20 7.62 rnds for popping a tire on Vodnik or Vannad. Armored vehicles should be a bit OP they are way to soft in Epoch right now. Not everyone are assholes that use them some use them as they are meant to be used, I drove past about 8 ppl last night only honking the horn at them. They have a soft spot to that makes them go boom quite easy but that you should learn with experience and not be spoonfed. . Would also like to see more armored vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToejaM Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 You can launch yourself off hills and cliffs and survive, the vehicle takes very little damage. It is essentially a battering ram, when we ran Altis Life servers we had to make running people over against the server rules as it turned into a destruction derby.. was utterly pointless. We werent in the privileged position to be able to add our own variant as Altis Life was a mission download and not a mod. I'd definitely vote to remove them, as said above the true counter is an RPG. Back when I tested it, it took 12 lynx shots to the tire. Though a 50cal will go through the windscreen, its not as easy when you put it to practise. They are functioning similar to real life, youve got to remember that a hunter is an MRAP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGT Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hunters = Arma 3's answer to Vodniks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 2 Lynx AP rounds to the engine should kill it. A 20mm clip of 7.62 should do the job aswell I'm sure (not tested tho) No use shooting the tires as their hitspot & hits to break seems to variate alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToejaM Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Nah they are better than vodniks lol.. at least vodniks would die if they crashed full speed into something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cring0 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Yeah, from my experience the tires can be shot up, though I haven't had any luck with anything under 7.62mm. I've tried shooting drivers out with a 7.62mm and haven't had any luck. This is while vehicles are sitting at a stand still, so I don't know what's going on. Sure, you can shoot out the tires, but most of the time they're carrying a multi-gun and can repair it in half a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Moses Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 If I am not mistaken the patch notes said the armor was nerfed a bit. Or maybe I heard that in Axles stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiemeatspin Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Well could be in the next build I really doubt it was nerfed in the current public one. Was able to destroy the tire with lynx and 2 guys were sitting inside not getting out. So got next to them and shot straight to their face and it would not even break the glass. Wasted 2 clips of lynx ammo then 2 full clips of mk200. Left them alone after that as there was nothing to do without explosive charges or mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr0dukt Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Nerfing them would make them pointless to have altogether. If any bullet could take out a tire on ANY vehicle. Then vehicles would become more of a hinderance than a lucky find. Hunter tire gets shot out with a vermin (absurd concept I know) and with this hypothetical nerfed armor, you sit there slowed and vulnerable to an easy kill shot from any Bambie with a .45. Which is mostly the case with every other vehicle in the game. The hunter can and should be the one exception to this. And it's not like servers are overflowing with them or anything. If you get lucky or work with a team to get one, more power to ya I say. As it would be in IRL. Taking them out would be a horribly impractical. Might as well take the bullets out of guns while we are at it. Since those with them are "op" in comparison to those who don't have them. This argument will always be from the underdog's perspective. But once you're the one privileged, these things aren't such a bad idea. Lol This is a survival game before a pvp game. I think people forget that. It's not based around ensuring everyone is on equal footing when firefights do occur. GasT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Moses Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Here is the patch notes I was talking about. They lowered the armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Yeah the tires are way way to easy to take out know.. It a armored vehicle for gods sake not a Ford Fiesta, even a newer BMW 116d with Run on Flats would take bullets to the tires without going to a halt this is ridiculous. Edit: Did not save last night´s event when one or maybe two shots from a .45 or could even had been a 9mm pistol took out a tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cring0 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hunter tire gets shot out with a vermin (absurd concept I know) and with this hypothetical nerfed armor, you sit there slowed and vulnerable to an easy kill shot from any Bambie with a .45. They already nerfed it some and it's still pretty hard to take down. If I'm using 7.62mm I usually end up having to use the whole clip to put one tire out, and then they just get out and fix it with a multi-gun within a couple seconds, if that. Here's the thing, the purpose of non-armed vehicles is for transport, not for running people over. If it takes a whole clip of 7.62mm to put out one tire and they charge me with it, there's no way I'm getting out alive if I can't find a building to hide in. And then, if there was a chance I could shoot out 1 tire that quickly, they'd fix it before I could do anything and they'd continue to kill me with it. If you're not charging people down with them, I doubt you'd have many problems. People drive around with them with NO FEAR because they're practically invincible. Even if you're in a group on foot, either you're all going to die or you're not going anywhere soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donelehon Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Well, they are really op, I just remember them from Altis Life, mayhem. I still think its nice that they are in the game. Perhaps they could be nerfed through making the maintainance more "expensive". What about you need 20 repairgunshots for fixing one tire? Or something like that... Mraps also need a shitload of fuel in reality, perhaps make it use more fuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Moses Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Here is the patch notes I was talking about. They lowered the armor. This is when they nerfed it right here in 103 hotfix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Well, they are really op, I just remember them from Altis Life, mayhem. I still think its nice that they are in the game. Perhaps they could be nerfed through making the maintainance more "expensive". What about you need 20 repairgunshots for fixing one tire? Or something like that... Mraps also need a shitload of fuel in reality, perhaps make it use more fuel? Thats a better option then making them weaker, I wan´t to feel good when I find the Vannad and not feel oh I found a tired heavy vehicle lets go search for a Turbo. Bring it back to normal and make it high maintence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballz Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 7.62 rounds pass right through the side windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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