Derpsley Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 It's ARMA, it's gunporn and hardcore PVP It's Epoch mod. There is much more than PVP and gunporn in it. But people like you only seek for mindless PVP action making overall experience for others, who come for more than that, worse (I don't mind PVP and banditry, it's just guys who think if it is Arma, than it must be all about gunporn and constantly killing each other that make me a bit mad). like every Arma mod there will ever be. :huh: I guess, you haven't heard of the "Life" mods, haven't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DruidRaven Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 The main issue is people are forgetting the background story to the MOD itself: "Open world survival mod set in the year 2035, Just two years after the mass extinction of billions of people. Those that remain are left with remnants of a once technological society. Try to survive, build, or explore your way through the harsh dynamic environment." Given that if this happened in the real world I highly doubt people would shoot on sight just to "get your stuff". Just look at WW1 & WW2 after both mass extinction of millions the people of this world worked together and helped each other as they were fighting for the survival of the species not for themselves. Perhaps this should be more of a prevalent thought process for all those involved in this MOD. Pry Exactly! It seems alot of player are here to pvp and nothing else. The "Holster weapon" is here for a reason! Do we destroy ourself, or do we work together for our continued survival... I´m supporting streamers at "Melly´s House" and I love how they are working together! <3 MakeArmaNotWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Alway´s thought holstered weapon means you wan´t to run faster, thats what Im using it for at least. Holstered weapon thing is to damn exploitable to use for a safe version to identify a pacifist, don´t pickup primary´s and keep your gun in the backpack then one could at least see when you reach your inventory to take out your gun would be a better way to identify pacifist´s. Could still have 8 armed friends close by though. If you are pacifist why even have guns? you can easily run away from the threats in this mod. Pacifist with guns would be a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donelehon Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Probably the oldest Discussion since the first Dayzmod. There always has been this dispute between the PVP and PVE orientated players. But this was always the strength of this type of games being attractive to both playertypes. It is the right mixture of both worlds that make the game fun! The only friendly encounters I had till now on Epochmod where in situations where one or both parties where unarmed. The adrenaline is just going up to high when spotting an armed group of players. But we will see how it works out with Sequisha`s new system, sounds promising! GasT and Imjustatourist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imjustatourist Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 @Derpey : I played Altis Life on CPC for months, in the beginning we were all like "Yay, Roleplaying, Harvesting, Trading!" After a month even the most carebearish of us noticed: it gets very boring without the "good old shootie shootie". So the Server rules started to change towards a more PVP oriented setting. What , you want to build bases and hoard shit without any threat, apart from AI? @ Donelehon: HEY BRO!! what server u on? @ anyone else : this is an ARMA mod, so expect to be shot at by people who actually want to use all those guns that are in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donelehon Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 @Imjustatourist : Skaronator since the whitlistdays! Perhaps we team up sometimes? Wonkes is also with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derpsley Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Immajustaturret, as I said, I don't mind having some good old PVP action and I totally understand that this is a big part of experience in Epoch mod specifically. What I was saying is that this is not the only part and there's no need to make it an RDM 100% of time. There are some other great mods that are designed specifically for this type of gameplay, so you don't actually need to go all PVP just (or even) because you got bored here in Epoch or in some "Life" mod . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imjustatourist Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Don't worry DerpsonMcDerp, I 'm not just here for the killing. Burning down bases and destroying vehicles is of course an important factor, too! And yes, having a good chat and a laugh with your buddies while looting corpses . But seriously, do you really expect me to run up to some stranger, waving hands ,yelling "friendly, friendly!"? We all know how that works out 99% of the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulmasta76 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 How about flagging your position on the map for a set period of time if you kill someone. Say for an hour. And anyone who shoots the said flagged person will not be flagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 How about flagging your position on the map for a set period of time if you kill someone. Say for an hour. And anyone who shoots the said flagged person will not be flagged. That was probably the weirdest suggestion Iv´e heard.. On a RP server I could understand it maybe but not on a PVE/PVP focused mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr1nk Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Never understood why the PVE and PVP crowds always yell at each other thumping their chests. Neither playstyle is "better" than the other. You need a mix of both for a balanced game. Imjustatourist and SinEnvy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulmasta76 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 That was probably the weirdest suggestion Iv´e heard.. On a RP server I could understand it maybe but not on a PVE/PVP focused m You have given your opinions but failed to explain why it is wierd. It sort of fits into Sequishas criteria. Lets hear your suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Moses Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 And the great debate of Epoch play styles continues.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummelpuh Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 The only good think is that most PVP "Superstars" are just CoD or Battlefield players who know nothing about ballictics and weather conditions in this game to take a perfect shot. I survived every battle in the epoch mod till today. Sometimes i was injured but never died and i walk the friendly way. BTW i play this type of game since the first operation flashpoint in 2001. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benezia Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I think the main thing people have problems with is the ones who camp out freshspawns, that is a bit silly but I guess it's up to them. Killing freshspawns is pretty pointless and gains nothing for any party, so I've never understood the logic personally. It's quite difficult to find the balance to where it's not carebear-orientated but not an all out deathmatch to the point it's turned into an Arma server. I wouldn't like to see stuff like safezones added myself as they only promote the moaners and types of players that expect everything to be easy and put on a plate in front of them, but maybe punishments somehow for killing freshspawns/people at traders and spawn areas for example, in the way of getting a huge chance of antagonists on you for a certain period of time. Something like that is supposed to be in place isn't it? If it is already I haven't noticed it happening at all. I can understand peoples frustration as I've been killed a few times as a fresh spawn, I'm not going to moan about it as it's a part of the game, but it will put people off eventually. Like someone said above it's kinda stopping people testing stuff and trying things out if you can't get anywhere because of people like that. It does get to that point sometimes if they're camping near the spawn areas for example when you get a big gang of them doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasT Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I used to think that there was to much PVP in the other mod the first couple of months but after a while I understood that PVP is necessary for making the excitement in the mod to last more then 2 months, and of course I got better to run away from battles. Here is a example where Im unarmed and meet three people with guns ready to kill me but I get away with their vehicle. Your suggestion would make the PVP crowd go to one of the other mods if their position was blown after every kill. My first suggestion is play the mod and learn how to move stealthy and cautious, if you don´t like PVP make sure to be in places on the map where its calmer. Learn how to read player behaviors and if you want to contact someone make sure you both have cover and you have a escape route ready, don´t just run up with your weapon holstered or scream "Friendly". Be prepared to die in the beginning cause I sure did. My other suggestion is wait and see what Sequisha brings to the table and then come with idea´s. I want there to be room for you guy´s and the Dev is working on a system so why don´t wait and se what that is before you try to get rid of the PVP crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Moses Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 The only good think is that most PVP "Superstars" are just CoD or Battlefield players who know nothing about ballictics and weather conditions in this game to take a perfect shot. I survived every battle in the epoch mod till today. Sometimes i was injured but never died and i walk the friendly way. BTW i play this type of game since the first operation flashpoint in 2001. :ph34r: There are more than a few of us that have been playing this game since Operation Flashpoint. We should get badges or something lol Brummelpuh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzeth Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 lol yep. i die maybe once every 18 hours of play, if that. And that's with me looking for a fight and not sitting on a hill sniping. badass :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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